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Posted by alexandra_k on June 27, 2020, at 5:07:49
turns out trying to be a medical doctor in new zealand is like trying to be a flight pilot in pakistan...
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/25/business/pakistan-fake-pilot-intl-hnk/index.html
one in five faked work placement overseas, they reckon.
but it's about bribing officials. one in five were caught bribing foreign officials for the final steps of accreditation.
that says nothing about bribery involved within new zealand. for entry. for sign off every step of the way...
i had no idea that we don't have a system. or, we only have a system of corruption. it would be irresponsible to teach anyone involved in that system anything.
for obvious reasons.
what a f*ck*ng sad day.
Posted by alexandra_k on June 27, 2020, at 5:16:28
In reply to doctor in nz: pilot in pakistan..., posted by alexandra_k on June 27, 2020, at 5:07:49
I mean:
They don't 'offer' me an interview -- when they are REQUIRED to interview people who are eligble for interview.
I 'remind' them of this -- and I get offered an interview LATER THAN EVERYBODY ELSE because siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww squirrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrm we didn't chooooooooooooooooooooooooooooose yoooooooooooooooooooooooooou and so we plan to make your life hell because we can because yoooooooooooooooooou are not ooooooooooooooooone of our chooooooooooooooooooooosen whiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiite.
Dear lady.
Then they miscalculate my GPA ACCORDING TO THEIR OWN ALGORITHM. I mean... They are tooooooooooooo stuuuuuuuuuupid ---- riiiiiiiiiight? Or, they just do whatever they want. Right? because the people they chose (the chosen white) are so morally contientious they are taught anything they want to learn by all the capable people of this world (yeah, right).
They couldn't be any more corrupt.
Obviously so.
Too busy with the manufacture of LSD and the selling of Natives brains to Harvard to do any of the things they are supposed to do.
F*ck*ng idiots.
Ruining things for us all.
Posted by alexandra_k on June 27, 2020, at 5:30:43
In reply to Re: doctor in nz: pilot in pakistan..., posted by alexandra_k on June 27, 2020, at 5:16:28
because people are supposed to go:
x amount bribed people for their qualification. And therefore their qualification is illegitimate.
But the issue really is that however many of the people WERE JUST GIVEN THEIR QUALIFICATION. without them passing anything. without them studying anything. without their doing anything. without their working for anything. without their knowing anything. They got the titles and money for the occupations without them doing anything. Because they thought the title sounded cool and the money is always good and they wanted... And they got...
And if they fly plane loads of people into buildings that's their perogative -- right?
And then you have other people who may or may not be competent. Usually they are chosen precisely because it is thought they are not competent. And then the only way they get the qualification / the occupation... Is if they agree to supply an endless succession of money or sex or whatever. Whatever. Whatever...
And it's becuase the entire system is a sham. They refuse to distinguish betwen the competent and the incompent. They refuse to OBJECTIVELY assess COMPETENCE.
It is corrupt through and through.
Welcome to Pakistan.
To India, apparently.
To the UK. Increasingly.
To NZ.Only the incompetent idiots of psychopathic inbreds get to do anything!
What a wonderful land!!!
Posted by alexandra_k on June 27, 2020, at 5:49:41
In reply to Re: doctor in nz: pilot in pakistan..., posted by alexandra_k on June 27, 2020, at 5:30:43
something something something about:
don't worry...
i'm the one who is buying -- not the one who is selling.
because the laws in a lot of lands are set up to prosecute / disadvantage those who are least powerful at the expense of the most powerful.
a sort of anti-robyn hood strategy of furthering the interests of the rich and powerful at the expense of those already disempowered and exploited.
and so prostitution laws, often, prosecute the sellers. the prostitutes who don't have a living wage and who can't figure how to get one without selling their bodies. they don't prosecute the politicians and wealthy citizens who invest in insuring that young females do not have a way of life outside prostitution. to better serve their interests.
they say the students are at fault for paying bribes...
but they don't look into the students who weren't required to pay bribes (mommy and daddy got that already). or the people who refused to examine the students properly without bribes...
i don't think NZ lets American Medical Students through out ''Medical System''. To see the lack of supplies. To see the obvious quality (or lack thereof) of the staff. The knowledge. The tests they send for. The results they get in what time. The IT system of the hospital. The way logins work. The rosters. All of it.
I don't think NZ lets American Medical Students through our ''Medcial System''.
I suspect if they tried to come we would offer them bribes to keep them out so they would return home being all 'everything is fine' rather than 'they don't even wash their hands, over there... And they don't even know what patient they are seeing half the time, and they don't have any medications to prescribe even if they did send for labs...'
We'd try and pay them off.
I'm sure we would.
Which is why the US won't take our students for internships -- hardly.
Because the people here won't even send references and the like... Or if they did they wouldn't mean anything. You would never know if they only wrote a nice reference because of bribery or because they felt compelled to reccomend the idiot and incompetent kid of senior officials.
We just don't do any of the most basic of things we are required to do.
We won't let any of our students do the most basic of things they are required to do...
F*ck*ng immoral and incompetent.
Sexually abusive and morally depraved.
Just f*ck*ng showing it off and laughing to the bank.
It's disgusting.
Posted by alexandra_k on June 27, 2020, at 5:53:46
In reply to Re: doctor in nz: pilot in pakistan..., posted by alexandra_k on June 27, 2020, at 5:49:41
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12300685
so we can rape you and not give you your degree.
thanks for your financial investment thus far.
see ya later!!
Posted by alexandra_k on June 27, 2020, at 5:57:30
In reply to ooooooooooh come to nz, international students!!, posted by alexandra_k on June 27, 2020, at 5:53:46
"The decision to terminate her enrolment was not taken lightly. It was based on explicit, recent advice from her own medical team who advised that the student was at high risk if she continued to study in New Zealand."
yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees stuart mccutcheon
you nailed it
confidentiality is to protect YOU
(not her)
YOU. YOU. YOU. It is all about protection of YOU.
YOU talk to her medical team and they tell YOU what is best for YOU.
YOU nailed it.
That's what confidentiality MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEANS.
That's why NZ pays you so much money.
So much money.
So much money.
We could imprison you and pay a replacement and still have change.
You f*ck*ng psychopath.
Posted by alexandra_k on June 27, 2020, at 6:15:07
In reply to Re: ooooooooooh come to nz, international students!!, posted by alexandra_k on June 27, 2020, at 5:57:30
`Privacy' is a joke, too.
It isn't something that is used, in law, to protect the vulnerable.
Like in the case of Medical Doctors working in the patients interests and not disclosing information to third paties such as Universities who may have a vested interest in... I don't know... Taking a bunch of money and not awarding Degrees.
''Privacy'' is used in Law for a University (for example) not disclosing anonymised information... Basically on the grounds that it may incriminate them. Only they don't say 'we refuse to supply information on the grounds it may incriminate us' they say, rather that they are working to protect the privacy of the chosen white elite minority by not disclosing the advantage that they have in fact. Or facts about how the institution works to retain their advantage (by disadvantaging other applicants and enrolled students).
Another is... Hmm... Let me remember... Something to do with the media...
But always...
They think the laws are to serve the elite white chosen minority at the expense of everyone else. Whatever notion. ''Privacy''. Whatever. It is always to serve their interests at the expense of everyone else.
I think NZ is the sort of wasteground for psychpathic idiots.
It seems to be.
Posted by alexandra_k on June 27, 2020, at 6:18:45
In reply to privacy, posted by alexandra_k on June 27, 2020, at 6:15:07
went to Harvard, apparently.
under a different name. kept mostly to herself. but went there. had an education. went to different talks about different things.
but why didn't she choose to come to new zealand and be bullied into suicide and then institutionalised and then raped and then the details be told to stuart mccutchen that she shouldn't get to finish her degree in teh name of privacy...
oh...
why??
i wonder...
why
oh why
china doesn't feel like doing business with new zealand.
what a f*ck*ng joke
Posted by alexandra_k on June 27, 2020, at 6:35:23
In reply to the kid of the chinese leader..., posted by alexandra_k on June 27, 2020, at 6:18:45
see, the trouble is that we are supposed to believe that it is the students who bribed the officials or the students who cheated on their examinations who are at fault.
the idea is supposed to be that (only these) kids are inept / incompetent because they didn't earn their qualification.
but you need to look into the system that decided to profiteer off of those kids. you need to look into the system that put them in the position where they believed that what was required of them... what was the 'normal' or 'usual' or 'done thing' or the only thing that they could do... was to pay the bribe.
i understand, now, that that is why our system is so obsessively focused on choosing the youngest (and most vulnerable kids) they can for the most part. precisely because they think they can bully them over the years into paying bribes and the like. believing that such conduct is normal or the way things are done.
sexual abuse and the like, too. believing that such conduct is normal or the way things are done.
that's why the focus on choosing them when they are young (and vulnerable) as possible. so they may be 'morally plastic' or 'adaptable' or -- basically as abuse-able as they can possibly be. that's why we intentionally do things in that way.
the system that decides that however many are selected for the purposes of amusement / abuse only. that however many are selected for the purposes of extracting bribes and additional payments.
and then the other kids who are chosen who aren't required to do any of that. who aren't required to do any of those things... but whose qualifications don't mean anything because they were never objectively examined. they were only given and never objectively examined.
the whole system is a hoax. a sham.
there's nothing here.
we don't do any of the most basic things that we are supposed to do.
i imagine we are constantly trying to engage in things... trying to sell organs for transplants -- if we are offered something that seems to be an 'opportunity' -- because we are too stupid to even understand that people test to see if we are honest / trustworthy / if there is any point at all trying to do honest business with us...
and we just constantly constantly constantly constantly convey that our leaders will take the low road only.
and there is nothing here. and there can be nothing here. nada. zip. zilch. zero.
where is all the hand sanitiser?
Posted by alexandra_k on June 27, 2020, at 17:44:38
In reply to bribes, posted by alexandra_k on June 27, 2020, at 6:35:23
``defamation / libel''.
is interpreted to mean that you can't make whistle-blower types of 'accusations' -- becuase that would be defamation / libel.
apparently our burden of proof goes the wrong way.
if you make a claim about someone (an accusation) you need to prove it is true to a certain degree of proof...
whereas usually the way it works is that you can say whatever you want and if someone wants you to stop then they need to prove that your claim is false.
so in the US or wherever the media can publish stories where people are making claims or accusations about the conduct of senior officials and the like. but in NZ the reporters / newspapers would be taken to court for defamation / libel to run them out of business.
there's another, too...
just a constant stream of laws to take from the poor and give to the rich. to take from the innocent and give to the guilty. etc etc etc.
ruining things for us all...
Posted by alexandra_k on June 27, 2020, at 17:47:45
In reply to privacy, defamation, libel,, posted by alexandra_k on June 27, 2020, at 17:44:38
apparently 'bribes' aren't actually illegal in nz
i found something that stated that they were trying to dissuade them in the nz context, though, because they are illegal most other countries of the world and it means that we are likely to get into trouble trying to do international business when we are in the habit of thinking that bribes are a normal or usual or typical way of doing business.
there is some stadium in Christchurch that is due to be finished at the end of the women's soccer world cup -- just too late for the soccer world cup.
so apparently they are going to have to build a stadium only for the soccer world cup that will basically be obseleted when this other one is finished.
they say they can't bring the other one's completion forwards.
course not.
they'll already have done the math on how much over-time and over-budget that one is going to run.
can we get the infrastructure finished on budget to time?
i suppose Australia is doing it for us, really.
Posted by alexandra_k on June 27, 2020, at 17:56:41
In reply to Re: privacy, defamation, libel,, posted by alexandra_k on June 27, 2020, at 17:47:45
Callaghan first felt a lump in her breast in June last year.
Two doctors told her it was nothing to worry about, and a referral for an ultrasound was not received.
"If you look at all the risk factors, I tick none of them, if you look at all the preventative things to do, I tick all of them," Callaghan previously told Stuff. "I think [doctors] put those things together and decided I didn't need to worry."
A Dunedin Hospital breast surgeon also thought it was unlikely to be cancer but on November 7, biopsy results confirmed the worst.
A CT scan on November 18 showed the cancer had spread to her lymph nodes and liver, so she was no longer eligible for treatment, only palliative care.
and that's basically the story over and over and over and over and over. medical team do nothing. hospice swoops in. patient dies.
Posted by alexandra_k on June 27, 2020, at 17:58:54
In reply to Re: privacy, defamation, libel,, posted by alexandra_k on June 27, 2020, at 17:56:41
I'm sorry -- alternative therapy from Mexico is thought to be a better bet than anything coming out of our 'Medical' system.
Probably likely to be less corrupt, even.
Posted by alexandra_k on June 27, 2020, at 18:51:52
In reply to Re: privacy, defamation, libel,, posted by alexandra_k on June 27, 2020, at 17:58:54
I think that was it. That was the other one.
There's a common mis-conception amongst lawyers, in New Zealand, that 'legal privaledge' is something that is for the benefit of the LAWYER (rather than the benefit of the person / company / whatever who commissioned their work.
What do I mean?
Well... Lets's say the University of Waikato wants to know whether there is a problem in having students enrol and pay for a 120 point 1 year research project and then... Not sending their work out for examination and requiring re-enrolment for additional points and requiring additional payments of fees before the University will look at conferring any Degree. Let's say the University of Waikato pays for legal advice about whether this business practice is okay or not when it comes to the Laws in New Zealand.
So the lawyer or the law firm or whatever (they will likely go with a firm if possible who has more money money money money money tied up in the firm)...
Writes a report. Where, of course, they don't see any problem with the University of Waikato doing anything anything anything that the University would like to do, at all. No problem. Just do whatever you want whenever you want because you want and since you are the most powerful the laws of this country are on your side always. xxx.
So now we wonder what will happen when a student takes the University to court for refusing to work to international standards (refusing to get the work to examiners in a timely fashion such that examination can be wrapped up within 3 months, refusing to base the outcome of examination on reports of examiners external to teh University). In fact the Education Act is a statute that talks about international standards which they clearly violated in refusing to base the outcome of examination on external reports.
And the lawyer (the firm) thinks it's okay because 'Legal Privaledge' is to benefit the lawyer and the legal advice that the lawyer / firm gave to the University is legally privaledged aka not admissable in court.
Except the University will gladly give the legal advice they received to the judge. That's precisely why they likely got legal advice from ALL the FIRMS they could find. To try and collect up ALL the 'yeah sure good idea do what you want' advice. So they could hold all of that up to the judge and blink their blinky stupid eyes and say 'we were acting under legal advice when we did what we did'.
And the lawyers / firms are going...
Gulp.
Because they didn't think they were accountable. They thought legal privaledge was for the benefit of them.
But nonononononono
(it was too cold, always)
It is that the University doesn't have to produce any of the reports from lawyers that told them not to do such a wicked bad thing that is obviously illegal. The University NEED NOT display that advice to the court (it is their perogative. It is legal privaledge).
The law firm that 'told them so' cannot say 'we told them so' because of... Legal Privaledge.
Why isn't this obvious?
Oh yeah...
Becaue I keep thinking that lawyers understand that their service is to JUSTICE rather than THE HIGHEST BIDDER
Posted by alexandra_k on June 27, 2020, at 18:56:58
In reply to legal privaledge, posted by alexandra_k on June 27, 2020, at 18:51:52
because it was work, wasn't it.
you write a legal report that says 'okay university sure do whatever you want I don't see a problem with it'.
and so the University will likely hire you, again!
the more reports you are willing to write about how you don't advise them not to do x and y and z wicked things... the more reports they will commission you to write.
it is a form of insurance for the university, you see.
because if they need to answer for their actions in court they want to pull out all the legal advice they received by the financially largest firms they can possibly find... as many of them as possible...
and say they were acting under legal advice.
quite the racket.
Posted by alexandra_k on June 27, 2020, at 19:00:36
In reply to Re: legal privaledge, posted by alexandra_k on June 27, 2020, at 18:56:58
oooooooooooooooh the very beeeeeeeeeeeest lawyers (grades given by the university)
only the lawyers who don't understand 'legal privaledge' getting those best-est grades.
getting a living wage from the university!
the best-est most financially lucrative firms...
giving all the lawyer-ing advice to the university!
quite the racket.
and what about the international students?
what court are their cases supposed to be heard in?
the kid who was bullied into attempted suicide, raped, deported and not allowed to complete her degree.
what court will hear her plight?
until we put it right...
how can international community allow us to take any more international students?
we cannot do right by our own students and we are not at all interested in good and sustainable business. we aren't doing any of the things we are supposed to do.
Posted by alexandra_k on June 27, 2020, at 19:16:28
In reply to Re: legal privaledge, posted by alexandra_k on June 27, 2020, at 19:00:36
it's interesting how there are these notions... and it's almost like they come as a package deal (even though i don't know what it is that they have in common such that they should come as a package deal.
the problem of consciousness.
if you are able to grasp the hard problem of consciousness. many people seem genuinely not able to grasp the hard problem of consciousness. they think that there is no categorical problem or whatever that is left or remaining as incremental progress on the easy problems...
intrinsic value.
the notion that the non-conscious world might have intrinsic (not merely instrumental) value. maybe this is tied up in an.. appreciation?? of some kind of pan-psychism about inanimate things... not sure...
morality.
doing the right thing because it is the right thing for the right reasons. an appreciation of more and more and more and more and ALL things considered.
there's more...
maybe it is the traditional philosophical problems / problematic concepts. i don't know.
health / flourishing.
the good of the person.
that the laws are a tool an instrument to be played in the interests or service of justice.
but many people don't seem able to grasp this notion of justice. consciousness. morality. flourishing / health.
i don't know what it is.
they tend to come as a package.
which is why people think it may well have something to do with higher cognitive capacity.
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