Posted by Larry Hoover on November 23, 2003, at 11:53:24
In reply to humor , posted by Jai on November 23, 2003, at 10:45:50
> > You couldn't see the twinkle in my eye, from over there, eh?
> >
> It's a funny thing about this board, I am so nervous to respond with humor. One persons humor can be anothers insult.Ya, I know, but I was teasing you.
> > Or, did I misunderstand, and you were discriminating between precipitating events and sequelae?
> >
> For example: my mother's family has late onset bipolar. My mother gave birth to me when she was 33 (perfect set up for the onset) But the previous birth (my sibling) was very upsetting and deadly. They both almost died. So my mother was terribly afraid to be pregnant again. Irish & Catholics in the 1950's etc....
> She did and it was me. It was poisonous from the conception...it's a mircle I am still alive and that was only the beginning. So between the pregnancy and the timing she went into a tail spin. Back then they used insulin shock treatment...oh boy this it getting too long. Anyway she had breakdowns every 2 to 2 1/2 years of my life. She just died this year and we had her funeral on Aprils Fools day (not our choice believe me)......the whole story could fill a book.
> so to get back to the point, I saw every breakdown coming and got real good at spotting the signs. God what a job for child?!! So it appears she might have had them anyway but who knows she never had time to recover and really rest. p.s. (She also has late onset Schizophrenia) > > > >What a job for a child....
> > I just wanted to make a point that honesty should also include honest feelings, e.g. respect and empathy.
> >
> Very good point and I may say you are a good example.Thank you.
> > Emotionally. My dominant memories are of terror.
>
> We are birds of a feather.Not a great way to remember childhood.
> >
> Moreover, I have no recollection, ever, of being so much as hugged. It may have happened, but I don't recall it....it certainly and absolutely did not happen enough.
> >
> I too was not given enough physical love (throw in some sexual abuse!!)and support. It took me forever as an adult to be able to get massages. Now I love it. It took me a long time to accept love and kindness. All that broke down and now I feel so much more open.You have shown courage in overcoming so much.
> > > Current diagnoses include: treatment-resistant major depression, dysthymia (so-called double depression),
>
> I have never heard of this double depression, it sounds so intense. Should I look it up or can you share about it?It's euphemism for major depression superimposed on dysthymia. In figurative terms, if you think of mood on a scale from -5 to +5, and euthymia at zero, my set point is not zero. It's more like -1 or -1.25 (dysthymia). Then there are major depressive swings on top of that (I think I've hit -4.5 or lower).
I used to think I was BP II, but my periods of approaching zero just felt like hypomania to me, in the context of my own experience. With the help of my medical care team, I now see things in a different light. Their objectivity has helped me re-assess my subjectivity.
> chronic fatigue syndrome
> >
> it sounds like the negative stuff is still in your tissues. have you heard of reconnection therapy? My sister does it to her clients. I have never done it myself. I guess she helps people release.It doesn't sound like a useful approach to me. 'Negative stuff in my tissues' doesn't touch me much....
> > Yes. It worked wonders on the acute form, but I ran out of treatments before trying to address the other.
> >
> I did EMDR for a solid year and I am amazed to see who I am now. For one thing I don't tremble anymore...I used to store tension in my body all the time. I used to have one emotional reaction to everything...FEAR. No longer, I have choices now.I can't afford the treatment. One day, perhaps.
> > 2. Renew Life Oil Smart?
> > I use a lot of essential oils...is that what's in there?
> >
> What essential oils do you use?Fish oil for DHA and EPA, and borage oil for GLA. Regular diet supplies more than enough ALNA, omega-6 and omega-9 fatty acids.
> Renew Life makes Oil Smart, a formula that helps in irritable bowel syndrome. It's a supplement.
I'll try and see what's in it.
> > What happens to you with Valerian? stimulated?
> > How the heck did you know that?
> >
> What's with that? Do you know why it does that? It almost seems toxic.So, valerian does that to your, too? I was amazed you predicted that for my own response.
PTSD permanently changes your biochemistry, if it arises from childhood abuse. Poor response to antidepressant therapy (excessive side effects) is another marker, IMHO.
> I hope to hear from you again.
I'm a gabber. Try to shut me up....heh. <joke>
> It's a beautiful day out and I am off to see some birds, hopefully.
I'm a birdwatcher, but most of the passerines have left already. You must be someplace warmer than where I am.
> Last night we went out canoeing & saw a river otter. It was so moving than I had tears running down my face. I have never seen one alive before. It was so curious about us...it came in real close to get a good look. It went away and came back and barked at us in a friendly way.
That's a lovely image. I love canoeing, but I've never seen an otter like that.
> talk to you soon.
> JaiKay.
Lar
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