Posted by musky on September 14, 2006, at 23:45:49
In reply to Re: Off Remeron update » musky, posted by johnnyj on September 13, 2006, at 21:29:10
>Hi Johnny:
WEll, that is interesting what you say about panic and ocd being very hard to manage without meds.. well I am managiing WITHOUT MEDS!! for my ocd.. it is dimisining more and more, by simply using my cognitive therapy techniques, and acupuncture and just plain fighting it.. and it is working!!! so I am living proof it can be done.. and remember that everyone has some form of OCD they just dont tell you that the pdocs... its completely NORMAL!! as long as it isnt extreme and intereferes with your functining..
I think that your lack of sleep is clouding your judgement and yes I know you have tried.. but remember dont try too hard , and too many things at once oK?.. try try to be patient.. also remember you are still on some meds no?? cause I think you told me awhile back that you were on lithium , then also now lunesta?? could it be that these meds themselves are creating this whole mess or contributing to it?? I would put that to your doc, and see what he says..
its good you are exercising and meditation.you are trying and I think you will be OK if you just keep hangin in... even if its by a thread..
I use to startle awake to. but I didnt give in to it.. it finally went away on its own.. I only get this once and awhile now.
Its great to hear that your doc is against remeron at least.. more dr.s need to take notice. but of course $$$$$$ talks..
I say listen to lyour gut ,,not your fear and you will win this fight.Hang in there
even try to nap here and there,,, to try to conserve energy
are you able to work?? cause me returning to work was the best thing for me as far as feeling productive again and changing my mind off of just obscessing at home by myself.Musky
Hi Musky:
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> I have ocd issues in the past but I didn't realize up until now. I was afraid to really talk about it and thought I was just crazy and no one would understand. I have been told that remeron and at least nortryptline, the meds, I was on can make it worse. The problem for me is severe anxiety that leads to ocd issues. I have been doing CBT and also reading too help me understand. In some of my reading I have found so many exact experiences with me that I was shocked. How could a doctor not notice this for 15 years??
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> It took one session with a new doc for him to say "hey, look, you never cut yourself any slack" He really hit the nail on the head. The truth of the matter is I know he is right about my dx. I haven't felt sure of anything reagarding my mental health until recently. I was always looking for a "reason" why I felt certain ways and now it makes sense. The pdoc was very supportive of me trying therapy and outlined what he thought but said it was ultimately up to me to decide. But, he said he thought he could help me with the right meds. From all of my reading it appears that painc AND ocd is very hard to treat without meds. Right now no lunesta and NO sleep for me. I have been lifting weights to try and help pull myself up but it is not easy. I envy you sleeping without meds. GOOD JOB!.
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> The truth the front of my head feels "activated" and I will not nod off easy at all. If I manage to nod off, without sleep meds, my body jumps or startles awake and then the adrenaline goes crazy. Trust me, it has been four months and I am trying excerise, meditation, acupuncutre, and chinese gigong and it is not getting any better. I will try and give the excercise another month or so then I need to make a decision "to live in almost constant pain and be obsessive" or try and get relief. The choice is not clear yet. It all comes down to quality of life ya know? Right now I have no quality and if I died tomorrow I might be relieved. I don't mean I would do it myself as I would never do that when I am numb all of time I feel life is just passing me by. I am engaging in as much as I can hoping enjoyment will come back.
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> BTW: the new pdoc, HATES remeron. Said it has not been any good for any of his patients and has only 1 patient on it. He said he would never recommend it to anybody.
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> BIG question for everyone. Does anybody get real spacey after eating? Sometimes it is almost unbearable.
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> Cheers
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> johnnyj
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