Posted by musky on September 13, 2006, at 0:46:55
In reply to Re: Off Remeron update » jules354, posted by johnnyj on September 9, 2006, at 20:44:24
>Sorry johnny to hear you are stuggling. Me too has had, OCD issues, but I dont believe for a minute that it Must be treated by meds.. For me success has been with cognitive therapy.. I found that when I was under extreme stress/anxiety thats when the OCD first happened and I didnt know it then.. years ago. then it went completely away on its own once my life issues were resolved. Years later it cropped up again.. and again I was under alot of personal stress. SO this hit the nail on the head, and when I first was treated with Remeron it did not get rid of OCD. and my short experience with amytriptylene made it WORSE!!! , so since being off the remeron, first the OCD kinda increased, but my own meditation, cognitive therapy skills , etc. and my pure will and stubborn nature , I have been able to overcome this OCD.. on MY OWN!!! NO MEDS.. and I think drs will say that you were treated wrong,,or another dr. will disregard a previous diagnosis, and claim that "they have the med figured out"... watch out for this... I know you are stuggling, and maybe your OCD is different than mine or you want relief, but I say fight this head on... I dare the OCD to stress me out and then it goes away! I dont want to discourage you from your dr. if you trust him/her. but the way I see it is they will have you medicated up for good.. and do you seriously want togo through yet another Remeron experience??!!
Sorry, your choice, bud.. hang in there.. be strong. and keep fighting..dont obscess about sleep... as hard as it is.. I actually put on a no care attitude about sleep and together with my past acupuncture treatments I am sleeping fairly well now.
Musky
Hello everyone.
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> Well Jules, you and I are having similiar experiences. However, I have other issues. I see that some of us have done well and I am happy for them, keep fighting if you can!
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> Me, well, I stopped sleeping about 6 weeks ago. I think I posted that I had to start something and that was lunesta. Unfortunatley, the anxiety and restlessness has been very bad. I started having ocd issues again and that has been very, very hard.
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> I do believe I have a good dx now and that is anxiety/ocd(obessive thoughts), but no compulsions that are distinct like hand washing, etc. I was somewhat relieved to understand that I was not purely crazy, but just suffering from ocd. I have been researching and reading on things and I was SHOCKED to see myself so clearly in what I have read. It does seem that with ocd and panic/anxiety meds are almost always necessary. I am figthing accepting this and what little sleep I can get on lunesta keeps me just in the "barely ok" state. Therapy will be long and hard. I have no panic attacks just a nagging anxiety that prevents me from enjoying things. I get some relief with weight lifting but aerobic stuff makes it worse. The front of my head is "activated" I just don't get the feeling of sleep or nodding off anymore. After the luenesta wears off I awake to my head being "on" just like before it knocked me out.
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> I am in the process of accepting myself for who I am right now and I am not going to beat myself up over this (or at least try and not obssess over it!).
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> One thing I have found out is that remeron can make some ocd issues worse. I had that experience but at least then I slept. I sometimes hope it is just withdrawal still but I know part of it is not because I had this problem before and it is complex. I have wondered if long term use of remeron has done something also but we will never know. We just have to go on from where we are at.
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> I will not feel bad starting something else even though I am terrified because of what remeron did to me. But, maybe, just maybe, I can get some peace with something else. My pdoc says I was never treated correctly and that is why my response has been low.
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> take care all and get healthy
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> cheers
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> johnnyj
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