Posted by LIFE on August 11, 2006, at 15:16:41
In reply to Re: CLEARER STATEMENT OF MY WITHDRAWAL OPINIONS, posted by jimbobwe64 on August 11, 2006, at 0:20:19
JIM, YOU MAY NOT HAVE ALL THE INFO, BUT YOU DO HAVE QUITE A BIT AND A HEALTHY CURIOSITY AND CONCERN ABOUT THESE DRUGS IN OUR LIVES. THAT IS WHY I NEEDED TO BE MORE CLEAR IN MY STATEMENTS. YOU ARE CONSISTENT AND DILIGENT IN YOUR QUEST FOR INFORMATION ABOUT OUR ILLNESSES AND THE SHARING OF THAT INFORMATION WITH EVERYONE. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I DID NOT DISCOURAGE ANYONE AWAY FROM THAT BECAUSE YOU ARE SPOT ON WITH MANY OF THE POINTS YOU MAKE IN YOUR ENTRIES. SO, PLEASE, EVERYONE, CONTINUE TO PAY ATTENTION TO THE SUPPORT JIM OFFERS, HIS RESEARCH IS EXCELLENT. JIM, I REGRET HAVING TO CONFIRM THAT WOMEN'S PHYSIOLOGIES ARE NOT OFTEN TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN PRESCRIBING THESE DRUGS, ESPECIALLY IN STATE FUNDED PROGRAMS ( ONE OF WHICH I AM A PART OF NOW DUE TO THE ABSENCE OF PRIVATE INSURANCE) I SEE MANY WOMEN OVER- MEDICATED, ONE INDIVIDUAL WAS SO DOSED UP ON DEKAPINE SHE COULD HARDLY WALK TO THE APPOINTMENT WINDOW. ONE OF THE ADVANTAGES OF A STATE PROGRAM IS THE ANNUAL BLOOD AND URINE ANALYSIS. THEY TEST FOR THE USE OF ILLEGAL SUBSTANCES ABOUT EVERY SIX MONTHS, BUT THEY ALSO MONITOR THAT ALL IMPORTANT RED AND WHITE BLOOD CELL COUNT, HOWEVER, IF YOU DO NOT KNOW TO ASK FOR THE RESULTS, OR DO NOT HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE CONCERNING WHITE BLOOD CELL COUNT AND ITS IMPACT ON OVERALL HEALTH, IT DOES NO GOOD. STATE PROGRAMS ARE MORE OFTEN THAN NOT RESEARCH FACILITIES USING US TO TEST DOSAGES, NEW DRUGS, AND DEVELOP STATISTICS ON HOW MANY OF US SUFFER WITH WHICH DISEASES. WOMEN, IN PARTICULAR, NEED TO REFUSE MEDICATIONS THAT RENDER THEM "FUNCTIONLESS" AND SEVERELY DEPLETE CALCIUM AND DAMAGE THE IMMUNE SYSTEM, AT THE SAME TIME THEY MUST TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT DOES WORK FOR THEM AND AT WHAT DOSAGE. MANY THERAPISTS ASSUME WOMEN NEED SMALLER DOSAGES THAN MEN WHEN, LIKE MYSELF, A LARGER DOSAGE IS REQUIRED FOR EFFECTIVENESS OVER A SHORTER PERIOD OF TIME. FOR EXAMPLE, REMERON IN SMALL DOSAGES OF 7.5MGS OR 15MGS WERE ABSORBED AND USED BY MY METABOLIC SYSTEM SO QUICKLY THAT THEY HAD NO EFFECT BECAUSE THE RESIDUAL AMOUNTS ( THE ACTUAL PART OF THE DRUG THAT EFFECTS MY SERATONIN LEVELS-THEY ARE TIME RELEASED MEDICATIONS) WERE NOT LARGE ENOUGH TO ALTER MY MOOD. BUT, THOSE SAME SMALL DOSAGES BUILT UP IN MY SYSTEM OVER A PERIOD OF TIME CAUSED ME ANXIETY AND HEADACHES WHEN TRYING TO CLEANSE MY SYSTEM. THE LARGER THE DOSAGE, FOR ME, THE EASIER TO WITHDRAW BECAUSE THERE IS MORE RESIDUALITY AS I TAPER OFF AND CONTINUE WITH HERBAL SUPPORT AND VITAMIN SUPPLEMENTS. THE DOWNFALL OCCURS WHEN I RESUME REMERON. I START WITH A SMALLER DOSAGE AND WORK MY WAY BACK UP TO 45MGS OR THE LARGER DOSAGE KNOCKS ME OUT FOR ABOUT THE FIRST FIVE DAYS OF RESUMING MEDICAL THERAPY. THIS MAY NOT BE THE CASE FOR A LOT OF OTHER LADIES OUT THERE! MY METABOLIC RATE IS EXTREMELY HIGH AND I TEND TO LOSE WEIGHT QUICKLY. MANY ENTRIES I HAVE READ MENTION A RAPID INCREASE IN WEIGHT AND CRAVINGS FOR SUGARS AND CARBS ( I DON'T HAVE THAT PROBLEM) THAT ALONE IS GOOD ENOUGH REASON TO GET OFF REMERON AND SEEK OTHER THERAPIES. BE WARNED ALSO THAT OUR BREASTS, ABDOMINAL AREAS AND BOTTOMS CONTAIN MORE FATTY TISSUE THAN GENTLEMENS' BODIES DO AND THAT FAT CELLS ARE WHERE A LOT OF DRUGS THAT WORK RESIDUALLY ARE STORED ( DOCTORS DO SEEM TO KNOW THAT AND SO MANY GUYS ARE LUCKY ENOUGH (TONGUE IN CHEEK) TO RECIEVE PROPER DOSAGES IN THE BEGINNING TO AFFECT THEIR MOODS). FOR EXAMPLE, I WEIGH JUST ABOVE A HUNDRED POUNDS, IF I SMOKE THE SAME AMOUNT OF MARIJUANA AS A MAN OF THE SAME WEIGHT AND HEIGHT, IT WILL TAKE ME THE SAME TIME PLUS A QUARTER TO RID MY BODY OF THE SAME INTAKE AMOUNT BECAUSE OF FATTY TISSUE IN THE BREASTS,ABDOMINALS, ETC. ( THIS IS THE SAME REASON IT IS EASIER FOR A WOMAN TO FLOAT ON HER BACK WHEN SWIMMING AND WHY NURSING MOTHERS MUST BE CAREFUL). SMALL BREASTS ARE NO EXCEPTION, THEY ARE STILL MADE UP OF FATTY TISSUE AND YOU STILL MUST CONSIDER YOUR MIDDLE AND BOTTOM. REMERON IS NO DIFFERENT, IT SITS IN THOSE CELLS RESIDUALLY, ESPECIALLY IF YOU DO NOT HAVE A SPEEDY METABOLISM, BUT YOUR METABOLIC RATE IS STILL HIGHER THAN A MAN'S OF THE SAME WEIGHT, IT'S THE AMOUNT OF FATTY TISSUE THAT MAKES IT EASIER FOR A MAN TO BURN OFF WEIGHT, YOUR METABOLIC RATE MAY BE SLOWER COMPARED TO OTHER WOMEN, AND YOU MAY BE DEALING WITH A DOUBLE- EDGED SWORD. YOUR METABOLISM MAY IMPACT THE AMOUNT OF A DRUG YOU NEED INITIALLY TO ACHIEVE MAXIMUM BENEFITS ( HIGHER DOSAGE) AND AT THE SAME TIME MAY SIT IN YOUR SYSTEM LONGER, FATTY TISSUE RATIO, JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE FEMALE, CAUSING CRAVINGS AND HEADACHES AND MAKING WITHDRAWAL DIFFICULT. DON'T BE AFRAID TO SAY NO TO A MEDICATION IF IT WARNS OF INCREASED APPETITE, I REFUSE ALL MEDICATIONS THAT WARN OF DECREASED APPETITE. DON'T BE AFRAID OF WITHDRAWAL. LEARN HOW TO DO IT, EVEN IF YOU DECIDE TO STAY ON MEDS AS I HAVE, THERE WILL COME TIMES WHEN YOU CANNOT TAKE THE MEDS ( MEDICAL REASONS SUCH AS INTERRACTION WITH PAIN MEDICATIONS, ALLERGY MEDICATIONS, ANTIBIOTICS- THEY IMPACT THE AFFECTIVENESS OF BIRTH CONTOL PILLS) PERIODICALLY STOP ANYWAY BECAUSE OF RESIDUAL BUILDUP. NO MATTER HOW SMALL THE AMOUNT OF RESIDUALITY IT WILL CAUSE A RECIPROCAL AFFECT OVER TIME... A GREY PATCH RESEMBLING THE DISEASE YOU ARE TRYING TO DEFEAT. THAT IS WHY I COME TO THIS PARTICULAR SITE. THOUGH I AM TAKING MEDS, WITHDRAWAL IS AS IMPORTANT A PART OF THE THERAPY AS THE CONSUMPTION OF THE DRUGS. JIM, YOU MENTIONED STANDING ON YOUR HEAD, AN EXCELLENT FORM OF EXERSISE FOR ANY WOMAN AS WELL. LADIES, DID YOU KNOW THAT RUNNING IS ALL WRONG FOR DRUG WITHDRAWAL OF ANY KIND BECAUSE IT SPEEDS YOUR METABOLIC RATE TOO QUICKLY AND CAUSES YOUR BODY TO CRAVE WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO RID YOUR SYSTEM OF? YOU RUN AND LOSE WEIGHT, AS SOON AS YOU FALL OFF YOU ROUTINE YOU GAIN IT BACK? AT FIRST YOU FEEL RELIEVED WITH THE EXERTION YOU HAVE PUT FORTH, BUT AFTER COOL DOWN YOUR BODY WANTS BACK WHAT YOU HAVE SWEAT AND RUN OUT ( CRAVINGS DURING PREGNANCY WHEN THE FETUS ABSORBS NUTRIENTS IS A GOOD EXAMPLE). THIS IS TRUE WHETHER IT BE ALCOHOL, COCAINE, MARIJUANA, COFFEE, CIGARETTES, FOOD, OR SEX(HA,HA). WALK, WALK, WALK, MONITOR YOUR BREATHING SO AS TO REGULATE OXYGEN INTAKE TO THE BRAIN AND SLOWLY FEED IT THE "-TONINS" IT NEEDS TO CONTROL THINKING AND RESIST BIOLOGICAL TRIGGERS. YOU WILL BE ABLE TO RUN AGAIN! AND YOU WILL KNOW EXACTLY WHEN THAT IS BECAUSE YOU WON'T CRAVE YOUR VICES AS SOON AS YOU COOL DOWN! YOGA POSES ARE EXCELLENT BECAUSE THEY ADDRESS BREATHING AND OXYGEN INTAKE, YOU FOCUS ON THE BREATHING, YOU BEGIN TO HEAR THE LANGUAGE OF YOUR PSYCHE, YOUR TRIGGERS, IF YOU WILL. ONCE YOU CAN HEAR YOUR MIND AND IDENTIFY THE TRIGGERS OF YOUR ILLNESS YOU WILL KNOW BETTER HOW TO CONTROL THEM OR TREAT THEM. I STILL HAVE LOTS TO SORT OUT ONCE I RECOGNIZED A LONG LINE OF ADDICTIVE BEHAVIOR IN FAMILY HISTORY AS WELL AS DEPRESSION. WHEN I WALK AND BREATHE I BECOME AFRAID OF MANY OF THE THINGS THAT COME CLEAR, FIGHT THE FEAR. RIGHT NOW THE MEDS HELP ME FOCUS ON THE TRIGGERS AND RECOGNIZE THEM, MY GOAL IS TO CONTROL THEM. I AM NOT THERE YET. CONTINUE TO WITHDRAW, JUST CAREFULLY BECAUSE YOUR FEMALE BODY TYPES ARE NOT YET CONSIDERED WHEN PRESCRIBING PSYCHOTHERAPEUTIC DRUGS RIGHT NOW. BE AS VOCAL ABOUT THE MEDICATIONS AS YOU ARE ABOUT THE OTHER THINGS YOU PUT IN YOUR GIRL GUT. IF ITS NOT WORKING, SAY NO, IF IT NEEDS MODIFYING, SAY SO. AND KEEP IN MIND, SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO DO SOMETHING CONTRARY TO WHAT THE DOCTOR PRESCRIBES AND MAYBE EVEN WITHOUT HIS/HER INPUT. THEY ARE OPERATING FROM RESEARCH STANCES. ONLY YOU KNOW YOUR BODY. IT IS YOUR RIGHT TO CONTROL WHAT GOES INTO IT OR NOT. YOU CHOOSE THE GAS THAT GOES INTO YOUR CAR, BE AS DILIGENT ABOUT YOUR HUMAN VEHICLE! DON'T LET SHAME IN EITHER DIRECTION CONTROL YOU. IF YOU TAKE MEDS RIGHT NOW AND YOU FEEL BETTER...MEDICATION MIGHT BE TEMPORARY TO HELP YOU FOCUS ON WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE... IF YOU ARE SCATTERED AND OUT OF EMOTIONAL AND MENTAL CONTROL YOU CANNOT HELP YOURSELF. IF MEDICATIONS ARE SCREWING YOU OVER AND CAUSING PHYSICAL UPHEVAL AND EMOTIONAL CONFUSION, GET RID OF THEM! AND TO JIM, CONTINUED THANKS FOR CARING ABOUT US ALL AND WANTING TO UNDERSTAND THE IMPACT OF DEPRESSION, PANIC, SCHIZOPRENIA, BI-POLAR DISEASE, MULTI-PERSONALITY DISORDER, AND THE MYRIAD OF OTHER DISEASES AND TREATMENTS AND HOW THEY AFFECT AND DIFFER IN ONSET AND RELIEF IN WOMEN. ONWARD TO LIFE WITHOUT MEDICATION, I TAKE THEM, I DON'T WANT THEM TO TAKE ME. LIFE
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