Posted by pseudoname on December 1, 2005, at 16:04:09 [reposted on December 3, 2005, at 14:38:50 | original URL]
In reply to Re: ...or overgeneralizing? » badhaircut, posted by Larry Hoover on December 1, 2005, at 13:08:02
willyee said:
> on the job however i do believe the docs learn mostly from the reps that come inToo true. I want my pdoc to think that *she* is smarter than the drug reps. As she was handing me a Prozac script, my FORMER pdoc said (more-or-less verbatim)...
PDOC: "Now if this works, you will take it–" [swings her arm out] "–for life. The [Lilly] rep was here last week, and he told us about a patient one of his other clients sees, who had a marvelous, 100% response to Prozac, never better. And after 2 years, she wanted to try going without it. And so they tapered off, and pretty soon she was depressed again. So they went back on the Prozac and guess what. It didn't work anymore. Never worked again. So that just shows you, when this is working, you have to stick with it indefinitely. You can't risk stopping."
Talk about logical fallacies! I wanted to scream. Instead, I switched to a hospital-based clinic that had officially BANNED drug reps.
I'm not there anymore, though, either, and my current pdoc is getting visits from the VNS manufacturer! So she mentioned VNS as an option for me. I said, "But it has lousy remission statistics." To her credit she admitted, "Oh? Well, I've only seen the statistics the salesperson gave me."
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Larry said:
> The poster did use an existential qualifier, "most", which weakens the counter-argument, making it, too, conditional.What would the (conditional) counter-argument be? "...and most other Babblers think they're DUMBER than their pdocs are"?
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