Posted by Glenn Fagelson on June 24, 2001, at 3:41:12
In reply to Re: Need help with insomnia. Any new ideas? » Glenn Fagelson, posted by kazoo on June 24, 2001, at 1:20:01
> > Thanks kazoo!
> > What is Carbitral,by the way? My
> > doctor will not prescribe any
> > Noctec for me; he says it is too
> > addicting.
> >
> > Glenn
>
> ^^^^^^^^^
>
> Glenn, your doctor is correct, NOCTEC is addicting, but let's be honest about this: all "sleepers" are. Addiction and habituation (one and the same, maybe not?) are user specific. By this I mean to say, it depends on the person using these agents; i.e., their personality, character, state-of-mind, environment, social interactions, job, family, etc., etc. etc. There's a fine line between "use" and "abuse" and, again, this is dependent on the individual.
>
> I also want you, as well as other readers, to know that I am not a doctor, nor do I pretend to be one. I draw my knowledge about these chemicals from personal experience, which is the best I can do. Also keep in mind that I would never advocate the use of any drug which I thought would put the user at risk.
>
> Re. Carbitral: this is just another one of those old time remedies, but the generic name is phenobarbital. It's a barbiturate, a Control II substance used sparingly and usually in hospital environments. If I were to use a barbiturate, it would probably be secobarbital (SECONAL) because it puts you to sleep fast; however, it's out of your system within three hours.
>
> I can't remember: are you having problems falling asleep or staying asleep, or both?
>
> Did you ask your doctor about DALMANE or RESTORIL? These were two popular hypnotics which were heavily used back in the 70s and 80s (ancient history). If necessary, I'll take either a DALMANE or RESTORIL to knock me out. (That's right, Glenn! You don't have a monopoly on insomnia! :-0 )
>
> Someone once told me, "If you can't fall asleep, then make the best out of being awake..." which I have.
>
> It might interest you to know that Keith Richards of The Rolling Stones confessed that he had stayed awake recently for nine days. The thrill of it all ...
>
> kazooDear Kazoo,
I thank you very much for your imput;
I have always felt that addiction is
largely dependent upon the user taking
it. I take either a Restoril or 1 mg
of Xanax for insomnia, along with 10 mg
of Zyprexa. I seriously, seriously
doubt if my psychiatrist would presribe
for me any phenobarbital or secobarbital.
Have you ever tried barbituates forsleep?
And if so, did it cause you to be more
depressed?Let me know,
Glenn
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