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Re: Today's Dominion Post

Posted by alexandra_k on October 9, 2018, at 21:50:18

In reply to Re: Today's Dominion Post » alexandra_k, posted by beckett2 on October 9, 2018, at 21:07:08

> Yes, and also keeping details fro private insurance. If one was abused as a child, statistics funnel your information into certain categories: more likely to be ill than others. Or genetics: predisposed to cancer. Then you could be denied or charged more.

I see. I learned just yesterday that we don't have laws that other countries do when it comes to insurance companies. There are certain things that you have to disclose if you know about them because the company will use them on the risk assessment. If you don't know, then you don't have to disclose, however.

Except in New Zealand apparently the insurance companies are (for example) not covering pre-existing conditions whether they were known or not. Ignorance is no excuse, in other words. If I (as a purchaser of insurance) do not disclose something that my insurance company later deems to be relevant then they retain the right to void the insurance.

That's what the Med school tries to do here, too. Any condition not disclosed that is later deemed (by some unspecified party) to be relevant may lead to your exclusion...

In other words... A degree or an insurance premium is what, exactly? A charitable donation? Not an investment. Not a low risk investment. An investment likely to profit only the short term interests of the people in charge of the university / health insurance company.

Everyone in this country seems to be out to take as much as they can as quickly as they can...

It's like the whole country is gonna be bombed in the very near future or something...

> If a doctor has 15-20 minutes to spend with me, he or she does not need to know everything. I don't tell my gynecologist about my depression. No one hears about bipolar except my psychiatrist. You're right about the bloody medical history forms.

It's hard to know when that cross-over of information is likely to harm or to help. Sometimes conditions can be inter-connected in ways that are non-obvious. Othertimes it isn't relevant. You need to know a lot to know what is and isn't important and whether things are likely to be connected or independent.

Here... There is a move to online records keeping. It frightens me. There is an online health record for every person. The temptation for different people to be able to access different parts of that information. I mean... Vaccine batch. Then every single presenting symptom forever after. Every single medication given (and batch) and dosage and every single presenting symptom forever after. Every single biopsy sample.

The potential for experimentation in ways that disproporionately burden particular demographics... And the potential to relegate people to 'no treatment / control / only observe' groups and to... Prevent... Their condition being treated.

These are not good things for our country.

I won't go to a GP anymore. I have loss of faith in our medical system. I won't have an operation here. Not after the whole vaginal examination thing. That's how bad things actually are, here.

If things are different... Let's see it.

> Also, now that there are computers, some things never disappear. That doesn't always seem right.

Information... Knowledge is power.

The concern is that the only people who have access to the knowledge use it to solidify their own power at others expense. That's the concern.

> My kid wants to get one of those genetic tests that reveal your ancestry, but I told him it would be under my name. Because all that info is saved and is already used w/o consent by law enforcement. What if he has a predisposition for some aliment? Idk. His generation is far more imperiled than mine.

I went to a talk recently that was fairly interesting that was about genetic diversity in different (normal) cells within the same person. People are mosaic. I would like to learn more about that. About the genotypic diversity within a person. About (given that) whether we can actually tell whether a particular cell is from the same person or from a differnet person... In some respects we know an awful lot less about genetics than we think we do. I don't know. I expect military would know more than anyone... High throughput sequencing and so on... But there is the concern that stupid people will misinterpret / misuse a limited amout of inofrmation (I don't mean your son, I mean people who have power over your son) for sure.

I don't know how to feel about the people who do psychiatry etc long term, here. I say it again: The psychiatrists who I got on with / wanted to work long term with were here only for a short time. The ones who stayed... I did not work well with them. Same could be said for psychology. Sometimes they were... Kinder. But... Uh... Not particularly bright. I don't know... I suspect many people lose their humanity when it comes to the demographic because that is the only way they can cope. Keep your head down and work hard to get out... Want to work with people... Decent people... Not helping the bullies give their herd their shots so they can better withstand the battery farm living conditions... Or the free range marae...

 

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