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Re: Today's Dominion Post

Posted by alexandra_k on October 9, 2018, at 17:51:23

In reply to Re: Today's Dominion Post » beckett2, posted by alexandra_k on October 9, 2018, at 17:27:21

I mean, the whole consent thing is going to be f*ck*d up, right from the get-go.

And the ethics teaching... Is most probably going to be someone trying to get everyone to collude on saying that what he (likely but maybe not) did was morally acceptable. Some sort of bullied collusion so that if people are hauled in to testify then the whole profession will collude...

Why would I think that Medicine doesn't have a psychopathy bottle-neck check-point like most every other degree in this country?

I think it is because (I need to look into it) my understanding is that once you are a Medical Student there is a variety of stuff you can apply for that you can only do because you are a Medical Student. Exchanges and the like...

I think it starts with the teddy-bear hospital. So you have parents (Mothers primarily) parading their kids in for the teddy-bear hospital. Because... They like the attention. I'm sure there is no shortage of Mothers who like to see their kids abused vicariously (and no shortage of people who like to see themselves abused)... I'm sure there is no shortage of people willing to give informed consent for all kinds of things (of dubious benefit and even things of likely only harm).

What is odd / strange to me is that *given that* people still prefer not to ask for consent.

I seriously went to an ethics talk in the not so very distant future that was advocating that we experiment on old people who had lost their rational faculty and *not even allow / acknowledge advance directive that they DID NOT WISH TO BE EXPERIMENTED ON UNDER SUCH CONDITIONS*. I mean... Someone gave this talk. Genuinely. With a straight face.

And nobody said: Lady, if there ever was a non-controversial case of ethically f*ck*d up: It's precisely what you are suggesting.

Nobody said that.

That's how bad things have got.

 

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