Posted by Nadezda on November 14, 2008, at 10:03:13
In reply to Re: Keith Olberman on Prop 8 » Nadezda, posted by rayww on November 14, 2008, at 1:52:13
You also write:
"...There are a lot of people who still cherrish those basic values of life. They are the ones who want to protect marriage and family, and keep it straight, meaning father, mother, and children...."
If you're suggesting that I don't "cherish basic values of life," you're greatly mistaken.
You think that: (in your words)
"I have nothing against homosexuals, or lesbians. It is their life. Let them do with it what they please..."
This is directly contradicted by many other things that you say, though.. Didn't you say in the post before that that gay marriage is "vile and disgusting"? And in this post, that nothing could change your mind about prop. 8? Yet to many gay people, the chance to get married is something they greatly value. How then can you say, "let them do...what they please..."
What does it mean to have nothing against people, when you have apparently a very low opinion of their life and want to prevent them from having the rights and benefits of a very important social institution? Not everyone believes in your religion. This is a pluralistic, not a theocratic society. Luckily, in my opinion.
We live according to humanist, not religious, values. Those may include, but are not limited to, or identical with, many core beliefs shared by most religions.
As a result, the principles of any particular church or churches are not the basis for our legal institutions and social practices. You're free to express your own personal opinion. I, to the contrary, very much hope that our society is not structured or run according to interpretations or strictures of the Bible. This has nothing to do with whether the Bible is a very significant text, or whether or in what way it's a good basis for moral decision-making. It's a belief about how our morality and our society are best constituted.
But just as nothing will change your mind about prop. 8, nothing will change mine.
Nadezda
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