Posted by special_k on March 23, 2006, at 19:15:17
In reply to Re: re unconscionable » special_k, posted by Dinah on March 23, 2006, at 18:59:15
> I just got a bit concerned about my use of such strong language, and whether that was civil...
((((Dinah)))) I think you are okay. But then you understand the civility rules on this board better than me. But I really think you are okay. And if you get blocked then I'll start an almighty protest over on admin - ok? (though of course you wouldn't you would only get a pbc...) but really. i can't even imagine which of your phrases you might be worried about...
> Because the reasons for not getting directly involved in the Sudan also involve concerns for the least amount of harm being caused, and are understandable.
yep.
both sides are understandable once the views have been articulated (but of course it can be damned hard to articulate them i have sympathy for that oh yes indeed i do) and... i'm not so good at it to be fair :-( when people disagree... i think you need to figure their motivations... and your motivations... and typically what you find (or what my idealism says you will find - dammit!!!!!) is that you both want the same things it is just that you think different acts are more likely to lead to what it is you both want.but then you can turn to analysing which really is most likely to lead to what it is that people most want...
> The people who believe that are also following their consciences, and are probably more familiar with the dynamics than I am.
i don't know sh*t all really.
i guess my natural inclination is to go with... pacifism. or... doing nothing yeah. or... prosecuting but being very very slow to step in with the troops.
and other people... i guess their natural inclination is to go with... it really is a horrible situation and doing nothing is terrible so... we really need to step in and do something.
but which is most likely to help?
hard to say...i guess i think that war tends not to help the same way personal violence tends not to help. i mean... it might help in the we overpowered you so we get our way sense... but it doesn't really do anything to remidy the situation...
> Leaving no really good choices. And a heck of a lot of dead people.> Which saddens and frustrates me.
yep.
still... i had an idea :-)
about the un.
i'm quite fond of my idea :-)it must have occured to some other people out there...
i wonder if it really is feasible...
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