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Re: what happend to the Kurds *poss. trigger* » 10derHeart

Posted by special_k on March 23, 2006, at 18:51:22

In reply to what happend to the Kurds *poss. trigger* » special_k, posted by 10derHeart on March 23, 2006, at 18:25:39

thanks i didnt' know about that at all.

so... there was talk of genocide...

i still think it should be up to the UN.

becasue they are the most global organisation there is and if it is up to the UN then it is a more united effort than the US taking things upon itself.

i think the people responsible should be prosecuted to the full extent of law. yup.

but then... US use of white phosphorous in Iraq... should be similarly prosecuted to the full extent of law. yup. there are photos of civilians suffereing the effects of that too...

i guess what i think is that...

peaceful means.

because what we like to think people are learning in their personal lives (that violence doesn't work)

i think that applies between countries too. violence doens't work. war doesn't work. i don't think the us involvement has helped more people live... i dont think the us occupation is helping more people live. but it is creating division. within the us and between the us and the rest of the world.

and the us does have interests in iraq re oil.
and even if that really isnt' a factor in the current situation...
teh rest of the world will be sceptical.
if the un considers it a just war...
if the un considers occupation to be the best bet...
then i think it more helpful if they are seen to be running the show rather than the us becaues i think it is fair to say that there is a general worry (mostly outside the us) that the us is driven by its desire for economic growth than anything else. that might be true it might be false. i don't relaly want to argue that. it would be nice to be charitable. but fact is... i really do think that... that is what pepole outside the us tend to beleive. tend to believe about us motives. so if the us was seen to be supporting the un... then the occupation would be more likely be seen as an attempt to 'help' rather than an attempt to take over. giving control of troops to the un would help that along. because it would be more that the world is united in trying to do something about this terrible situation.

the us just kind of making decisions off its own bat...

regarding invasion and trade sanctions etc...

i don't think that helps. i think it tends to escalate the situaiotn.

> <sigh> A lot of horrific suffering all around.

:-(

yes.


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