Posted by alexandra_k on October 31, 2005, at 21:11:06 [reposted on November 1, 2005, at 6:20:12 | original URL]
In reply to Re: the Ministry of Civility, posted by zeugma on October 31, 2005, at 19:29:14
> perhaps i cannot educate anyone.
?!
But you have taught me a lot about Kaplan ;-)YAY! Creation 'science'. I started a thread on that a while back over on social. IMO... IM reasoned O... Creationism is not a scientific theory; it is not a credible alternative to evolution by natural selection and thus it is not appropriately taught as part of the science curriculum. To say that creationism is a plausible alternative to evolution by natural selection is to show... That one does not understand what a science is.
Though I'm willing to discuss this if you would like ;-) It has come up as an issue in NZ too. Mostly... Because schools have been inundated with American creationist literature being sent to them.
And... Don't even get me started on the system that teaches that condoms are worthless and teaches the failure rate but neglects to mention they are 100% effective IF USED PROPERLY. And fails to teach people how to use them properly.
But... Different issue I suppose ;-)
SOmetimes...
Sometimes the twin aims of support and education seem to come into conflict with one another...I think...
That one can do the education thing, but when there may be conflict then one has to be extra special careful to... Well... To be careful and sensitive to the point of view of those who disagree.And you are a very sensitive person.
> there is division and hate everywhere, not exclusive to america. and we have profited greatly in the past by our oceans.
> well i would like to preach to other than the converted, as they say. i have written on specific aspects of Bush's policy, and the relevant comments have not been answered by any advocates of said president's policies. but perhaps that is because any such advocates feel intimdated by the liberal bias of the politics board, or have other reasons for not replying.
> we have a vice president, considered by able scholars the most powerful in history, given key mention in an indictment that details the outing of a member of the central Intelligence Agency of this nation, a most serious charge and one that compromises national security and hence makes a lot of people here upset
> and also involves the Iraq war, i.e. that the CIA member was outed b/c her husband had concluded there were no WMD in Iraq, her husband an intelligence expert delegated by the CIA to investigate charges of uranium bought by Saddam Hussein, charges said CIA investigator concluded were spurious
> now the CIA is doing a damage assessment. for obvious reasons this assessment will not turn up on page 5 of your local newspaer anytime soon, unless something goes very wrong.
> there is nothing uncivil or unkind in what i have said. in my miserable way i am trying to support and educateI don't see anything wrong with what you have said either. Maybe I"m missing something... But I think it was just calling the administration 'criminals' that was problematic... I thought it was because that was a bit of a generalisation (one being up on charges) but seems there was more to it than taht... i dunno.
> i am miserable about this situation:-(
me too.> and we are told we are fighting a war on terror
lol. how many people have the CIA and US military 'terrorised'?
> quite a rant, i have never ranted like this before
no. i haven't seen you.
> dear alexandra
dear zeugma.
you are special to me too you know :-)
>
> -z
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