Posted by nikkit2 on March 7, 2005, at 6:57:04
In reply to Re: marriage isn't religious.., posted by rayww on March 7, 2005, at 3:12:24
I've not got much time as I'm at work.. but there are a couple of things I would like to address..
What about a hetorosexual couple who have decided they do not want children.. The man has had a vasectomy so he can no longer make his partner pregnant.
But they want to be married..Is that making a mockery of marriage and making it "sexually centered". How about "love centred".
And, whilst undertaking bible studies in preperation to be confirmed in the Church Of England (Protestant), we were taught that the old testement is bascially a set of fables, that are designed to be a guide to living those 1500 or what ever years ago. And that it was the new testement that was the "true stories" as it were.
I actually believe that about most of the bible.. I don't believe in God, and I don't believe that Adam and Eve existed. But I do believe that a man called Jesus existed who was a great orator, and who was able to preach wonderfully to people. I don't believe that any religion is more "pure" than the others.
Do you live by the ENTIRE bible? Or do you choose which parts you wish to live by? Do you live by the laws in Leviticus for example?Your argument about wealth making people un-equal doesn't match the discussion. We are talking laws. Someone in poverty (but is hetorosexual) has as many rights to marry as the richest of people. Its not that long ago, in the US, where similar things were being said about black people is it? Would you now say it should be illegal for a black man to marry a white woman?
You said "What about the person on his 5th companionship, that is only into its first year? I'm sorry I don't know, but do couples (2 people in one household) often stay together for life?"
Can you explain how this is ANY different from a hetorosexual relationship? After all, we ALL know that many many people divorce and then remarry - many of them over and over again.And, I am incredibly shocked at your abuse comment. I think you would find that its actually a hetorosexual man who is the most likely to be an abuser.. What about all the Priests who have been caught recently?
I'm afraid that comment has made me really think it would be best to not continue this discussion.I hope you are able to resolve within yourself that being gay does not make anyone less of a person, more likely to be an abuser, or more likely to be promiscious.
One final question that I'd love to know the answer to.. if your son had come to you at 18, or 21 and said "I'm gay", would you have disowned him? Would you have refused to leave your younger children or grandchildren around him out of fear he would abuse them?
Nikki
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