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Re: Gay Marriage

Posted by AuntieMel on March 1, 2005, at 12:47:33

In reply to Re: Gay Marriage » snoozin, posted by rayww on March 1, 2005, at 10:07:16

Religious folks can bind to a contract with god if they want to. No one here is trying to deny that.

It is a contract you enter into with free will, and others of us with free will chose not to do so. Just as your temple marriage is something you enter into in free will.

I get very confused sometimes by the arguments of some of our religious folk. On one hand the argument is for a strong family and for the government to not interfere with personal religious choice. On the other hand they often (not saying you do) argue that the school curriculem should fit their religion.

Does that not deny us our right to choose no religion for us and our children?

You also say:

<<<Is there a constitution for the contract of the Union of States?

<<<The constitutions and contracts were perfect in the beginning, but the amendments, and the amendments to the amendments have all but destroyed the original intent and perfection of both.

But it is precicely a constitutional ammendment that would be needed in the Unites States in order to DENY a person the right to gay marriage. Currently that decision is left to the states.

Most of the ammendments in the constitution were inacted to *provide* protection of rights - civil rights, right to vote for non-property owners, right for women to vote, etc. I'm not sure why you would say that this ruins the "perfection" of the constitution.

The argument against gay marriage is not religious in nature, although that is often used as a rallying point. Because no one has tried to say that any denomination is *required* to allow this. Religious institutions are free to make their own rules now, and that isn't threatened.

The real argument boils down to economics. The things that will be denied if there is such an ammendment are property rights and next-of-kin status.

And remember - if there is such an ammendment then it will be taught in school and discussed in school. Right now it is a topic that isn't in the curriculum.

 

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