Posted by rayww on March 1, 2005, at 0:16:20
In reply to Gay Marriage, posted by snoozin on February 28, 2005, at 19:38:56
> OK, this is bugging me. I don't understand why the concept of gay marriage is so offensive to some people. Just because you don't agree with gay marriage doesn't mean other people shouldn't be afforded the opportunity to have a loving union with all the same rights given to straight couples. They are not *special rights*, because others already have them.
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> What is more important, the sanctity of marriage or the sanctity of human life? If it's human life that is more important(as I think it should be), then allow humans to live their lives in dignity, pursuing happiness, gay or straight or whatever.
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> Should the sanctity of marriage be put above the health and welfare of the spouses? Should a woman stay in a violent marriage just to honor marriage?
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> Humans must come before institutions.
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As I see it, this has nothing to do with a woman staying in a violent marriage. I clearly see your point and understand your longings for union. Don't get me wrong. I do understand. I may not agree, but that is not the issue either.The issues go far deeper than what meets the eye, or the passion, or the need for social benefits. The real issues are difficult to define in a way that is understood by all people. But I'll try:
Outcome #1
A marriage is a contract that carries within it the power to create. If marriage ended at death that wouldn’t be an issue, but what if it doesn’t? Mormons (myself included) marry in the temple for time and all eternity. We believe heaven is organized and governed according to family, with Adam and Eve at the head of our particular one.Outcome #2
The nation we call America was carved with blood, sweat, and tears. God inspired our founding fathers with the outcome in mind of freedom, especially freedom of religion.A contract was drawn up under the divine inspiration of God. Gradually one by one, each state that wanted to belong to the union signed up and formed the country we lovingly call the “United States of America”. Policies were established in support of the contract, and procedures were outlined. There were rules and regulations to abide by in order to maintain unity and protection under the umbrella of the Constitution of the United States. Policies, procedures, measures and outcomes. Mission statements, vision statements, leaders and management. Laws and punishments. Justice and Mercy.
Is there a constitution for the contract of marriage?
Is there a constitution for the contract of the Union of States?The constitutions and contracts were perfect in the beginning, but the amendments, and the amendments to the amendments have all but destroyed the original intent and perfection of both.
The Bible contains our constitution for living. Has anyone ever opened the Bible and outlined the contracts for living that are so clearly described therein? It clearly defines the outcomes, the business plan, the procedures and policies. It cites hundreds of examples of outcomes of those who chose to live true to the contract and of those who didn’t. Far too often, instead of empowering our own faith to live according to the principles, we ignore the issues and waste our energy by debating the nature of God, and then we discount what we read because we can’t seem to figure out exactly who He is and rationalize the whole story must have been fabricated.
When we have a desire, it needs to be measured by the contracts and constitutions. You have the right to be gay if you choose. You do not have the right to change the constitutions.
God will listen to your prayers. Will you listen to his answers?
Under the constitution you have the right to be gay. You have the right to have friends, to get a job, to have a mother and a father. You have the right to belong to a family who loves you or hates you. but when you say you want gay marriage, you are talking about changing the whole constitution of life as outlined in the Bible.
The issue isn't just about gay union.
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