Posted by Jakeman on November 14, 2005, at 20:04:14
In reply to Re: Question about lil' jimi's 2 week block » TofuEmmy, posted by verne on November 13, 2005, at 9:29:37
> We can say torture and inhumane treatment are wrong. The rub may be in saying, "Anyone who advocates xy or z for any reason should be viewed with contempt."
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> This issue isn't black and white. There's a debate, even in government, about what sort of prisoner treatment should be allowed in extreme situations. Somehow these discussions need to remain civil and each side respect the other's point of view.
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> It would be better to talk about what a good thing humane treatment and not torturing others is, rather than speak negatively about those with opposing views - no matter how extreme.
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> Verne
>Verne,
In a small way I agree with your point and I credit Dr. Bob walking the rasor's edge on this issue. Torture, like slavery, is one of those practices that has received international condemnation and in my view has been decided by the world community and historians a long time ago to be unacceptable. And the US has initiated and signed accords which oppose it. Should we condemn those that do it, I think yes. Should we argue about it's permissiblity, I think no. What I find absolutely outrageous is that NOW we are suddenly discussing the rightness of torture. Yes, I do feel this issue IS BLACK AND WHITE. If it's not, then I am truly worried about the future of this country.
Verne, I think you are a great contributor to PB and appreciate your posts, but I respectfully disagree with you on this issue. I feel that sometimes we have to talk about the shadow it order to show the whole picture.
Besides, we all don't have to agree all the time. :-)
warm regards ~Jake
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