Posted by JadeKelly on March 18, 2009, at 11:22:45
In reply to To much DA in with total MAO inhibition = low bp?, posted by myco on March 17, 2009, at 0:04:58
> Hey,
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> Recently I had somewhat of a misadventure with trying to potentiate the DA and SE effects of Nardil with green tea extract. Well that was almost a week ago and I am still in a state of dizzyness, tinnitus, throbbing head in 4's every few minutes, chest pains, difficulty breathing seems like...heavy breathing or shortness of breath. Ive only been able to "catch" my bp on a bp machine at safeway on occasion but will buy one tommorrow to monitor thoroughly....question....I knew that there was an enhanced DA effect with the green tea before it all shot to hell...is it possible that whatever neuro-enhancement it has done to me is still in there almost a week later because nardil (75mg) is completely inhibiting mao...also I take melatonin every night in lil bits which feeds back into DA according to studies (also just read its not as benign as I thought)....so mabye all this combine to produce a result that makes me feel like i'm going bloody brain dead here? lol Think it is as easy as lowering the nardil to allow mao to work again (stopping melatonin also) and not f*ck*ng around with DA supplements anymore....to rid this head crazyness? I almost fell over getting out of this chair 10mins ago..nardil has never done that to me. Please share on the validity of this or experience with sides that just dont go away. I think this green tea is toying with me ... you made a mistake d*ckh**d now you will pay moohoohoohahahahaha. bah...i'd love to sleep but my entire head goes beat red and sweats like a pig when I lay down then waking up is massive headache time everymorning. Someone shoot this horse lol.
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> myco
Hi myco ;-)Glad all is cool. So far lol. Those headaches you are referring to are happening when your BP is going up. Sounds like it didn't go up to high but high enough to cause symptoms. Can you get a digital monitor if you're having trouble? I think medical people can get a more accurate read from the manual one, but alas, being lame we'll have to use digital to come close.
I take 6mg of Melatonin a few nights a week and never get high BP. Are you taking ANYTHING else other than the green tea? OTC product? Soy protien shake, anything like that? Check out the new food list I posted just to be sure, read 1st 2 posts. I don't know what is in Green Tea other than caffiene, if its an energy drink it could be the culprit. Ginseng? Doesnt it have Ginseng? Check that on line too. Something doesn't sound right. Unless your taking this stuff in large quantities.
Something is causing it. Do you have an antidote, ie: Nifedipine, or one of those? I would get that from PDoc asap also. If your BP is going up and up and that headache is becoming unbearable take one. Standing up was the one thing that eased my headache I remember. If you stop that stuff, your BP should settle down, and you don't have to make a big deal to your PDoc, or your right, he/she might take you off.
I had to beg mine to keep me on. I actually negotiated with him and took Nifedipine for a week after, I don't recommend it, it was awful. If you cant find whats doing it, Tell PDoc the med is working well and you don't want to stop could he help you figure out what your doing wrong, mention the tea and melatonin, and see what happens. If you don't become completely normal, you may be able to augment with something that lowers BP. I take Ritalin with my Parnate or my BP would be way to low. Also it works to potentiate the Parnate. You have the opposite problem and it needs to be corrected. Normally you would be complaining of low BP by now! I do think all of your symptoms can be explained by the high BP, or whats causing it.
Remember, take stock of everything you're eating and drinking, and see if its on the list as okay. Make sure you're not ingesting large quantities of a food to be taken in moderation, etc. I'm gonna look into green tea and melatonin and see what I can find. One more thing, sometimes those things come with added stuff, like melatonin can come with Thiamine for stress releif (Okay) not sure what they add to tea. Okay, good luck and let me know what happens! I'll get back to you if I find anything more on those two things.
I agree, if your responding some now (how long?), that means you will probably eventually respond fully, I wouldn't want to give that up either.
~Jade ;-)
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