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Posted by zazenduck on May 19, 2006, at 9:08:55
North Korea
China
Are there others that actually outlaw all religion?
The USSR was but isn't as were the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia.
I'm not talking about separation of church and state (Thank you United States of America for introducing that to the world!!!!!!) or about countries with a state church.
I'm talking about actually outlawing all religion.
Posted by zazenduck on May 19, 2006, at 9:27:01
In reply to Religionfree governments, posted by zazenduck on May 19, 2006, at 9:08:55
Of course the separation of church and state makes government religion free (but not the governors necessarily) and in countries outlawing religion some people still practice it in defiance of the law.
Posted by Estella on May 21, 2006, at 0:54:25
In reply to Religionfree governments, posted by zazenduck on May 19, 2006, at 9:08:55
> I'm not talking about separation of church and state (Thank you United States of America for introducing that to the world!!!!!!)
????
er...
what was the french revolution about?????
(are you being ironic?)
Posted by Estella on May 21, 2006, at 0:57:58
In reply to Title should be Countries Outlawing Religion » zazenduck, posted by zazenduck on May 19, 2006, at 9:27:01
there is a distinction between
prohibiting religion
and
being free from religion
people are free to use alchohol in their own homes or in designated areas (pubs, clubs etc)
but they aren't free to drink on the streets (technically)
similarly
there would be a difference between saying people are free to worship as they will in their own homes or in designated areas (churches, community centres or whatever)
as opposed to prohibition altogether.
personally...
i don't have trouble with people praying / meditating or whatever on the streets and stuff...
but when people are required to pray i have trouble...
i do.
Posted by zazenduck on May 21, 2006, at 5:05:55
In reply to Re: Religionfree governments, posted by Estella on May 21, 2006, at 0:54:25
> > I'm not talking about separation of church and state (Thank you United States of America for introducing that to the world!!!!!!)
>
> ????
>
> er...
>
> what was the french revolution about?????
>
> (are you being ironic?)
no
Posted by tealady on May 26, 2006, at 1:38:40
In reply to Re: Religionfree governments, posted by Estella on May 21, 2006, at 0:54:25
> > I'm not talking about separation of church and state (Thank you United States of America for introducing that to the world!!!!!!)
>
> ????
>
> er...
>
> what was the french revolution about?????
>
> (are you being ironic?)Unfortunately not.. :-)
BTW China does have separation of state and religion. There are Christians practising openly in China:) even encouraged!
I suspect the Chinese govt doesn't look fondly on the types of religion that like to control the govt though!!
I guess you probably realise the French funded the US independence (it WAS a war against the Brits;-).. so the US are going to pay this debt back one day ??;-) The interest should be about...The separation of religion and state is way older than the French revolution.. which wasn't really about enforced religion?, more about the French funding the US war and almost bankrupting France doing it.. at least starving and overtaxing the peasants to raise money for the war! .. and all the "let em eat cake stuff" which was exaggerating to make a scapegoat
Their was Luther and all the other protestant groups before this( couple of centuries or so?).. but consider the Jews.. since before the birth of Jesus.. lived throughout Europe and most of the time were free to practise their own religion, and the wandering gypsies. But many more examples thru the world. I think the concept of separation of state and religion goes back a long way.
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