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Posted by AuntieMel on February 23, 2006, at 18:14:33
In reply to Re: Houston gets to keep the poorest of the evacue » AuntieMel, posted by Dinah on February 22, 2006, at 22:15:59
Interesting dilema
Public housing to screen for criminal backgrounds?
Private apartments already do.
Where is a criminal to go?
And more important, where were they all living? Where did they come from?
I'm not trying to be mean - I know that it's a slow process and people who want to help rebuild should have a place to live - and that it should take precedence over "free" housing.
It was just something about the way it was said. Mix that with what other people said about Katrina being great urban renewal and it sounded (to me) almost like gloating to be rid of the "rifraf."
Posted by Dinah on February 23, 2006, at 19:44:01
In reply to Re: Houston gets to keep the poorest of the evacue » Dinah, posted by AuntieMel on February 23, 2006, at 18:14:33
Chuckle.
Well....
I'm not saying there aren't people who have that attitude.
I think I can't say any more about those people on this forum. :)
I don't even know how many people have that attitude, to tell you the truth. But I know it's not possible to keep people away, so it doesn't really matter in the long run what they might think.
Posted by James K on February 25, 2006, at 18:49:06
In reply to Re: Houston gets to keep the poorest of the evacue » AuntieMel, posted by Dinah on February 23, 2006, at 19:44:01
I've lived here for 33 years, and I've never had bums with cups go car to car at red lights. Sell flowers, newspapers, hold a sign, whatever. But hold a goddamned cup and knock on car windows? never at least not till a few weeks ago. some stupid out of town? piece of sh*t just stuck his face in my wife's while she drove us home from our first nice night out in weeks. I was out of the car before I even knew what was happening. He ran off and I screamed and followed and threatened his life. If he had even looked at me, I would have killed him. right in the middle of one the major streets in our city. go back where you came from. Never in my f*cking life. Next one is dead. Don't touch my car, don't talk to my wife. dont even f*cking look at me. My wife called the cops when we got home, just so I didn't get in the car and go back.
I'm not naive and I'm not sheltered. This is Texas get the f*ck off of my car.James K
Posted by Gabbix2 on February 25, 2006, at 19:26:50
In reply to I just went after a beggar » Dinah, posted by James K on February 25, 2006, at 18:49:06
pleased with yourself?
Posted by Gabbix2 on February 25, 2006, at 19:37:40
In reply to I just went after a beggar » Dinah, posted by James K on February 25, 2006, at 18:49:06
> piece of sh*t just stuck his face in my wife's while she drove us home from our first nice night out in weeks. I was out of the car before I even knew what was happening. He ran off and I screamed and followed and threatened his life. If he had even looked at me, I would have killed him.
**So he wants some money in his cup, and it annoyed you the way he did it. It is intrusive. He's probably desperate and desperation can make you do things you never thought you would.
And you, who just went out for dinner maybe?"
and had had a nice night out, threatened *his* life, and ran after him screaming.But he's deserving of being called a piece of sh*t?
Interesting standard.
Posted by TofuEmmy on February 26, 2006, at 10:18:50
In reply to Re: I just went after a beggar » James K, posted by Gabbix2 on February 25, 2006, at 19:37:40
(((Gabbi))) I love your style.
em
Posted by Dinah on February 26, 2006, at 11:16:55
In reply to I just went after a beggar » Dinah, posted by James K on February 25, 2006, at 18:49:06
I'm sure your wife wouldn't mind someone rapping on her window with a cup nearly as much as she'd mind you in the criminal justice system for killing that person, James. And I know how much you love her, and how much you appreciate how she's stood beside you.
I really think that you should talk to your psychiatrist again, possibly about getting admitted, but definitely about trying to get some more stability with your medications. I know it's frustrating to try to get help and be turned away. Maybe your personal doctor could intervene ahead of time so that you can get the help you're requesting.
Posted by James K on February 27, 2006, at 0:36:55
In reply to Re: I just went after a beggar » James K, posted by Gabbix2 on February 25, 2006, at 19:37:40
Guess what? I'm a piece of sh*t too. I'm unemployed, I'm mentally ill, I didn't stick my face into his until he stuck his face into my wife's.
do I feel better? I have two new fractures in each hand because I beat the crap out of the door jamb 3 or 4 hours later. I feel like a million f*cking dollars. He "earned" more than I did that day. I'm hurt, He's not. so what. what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what.
WHAAT????????James K
Posted by James K on February 27, 2006, at 2:15:29
In reply to Re: I just went after a beggar » Gabbix2, posted by James K on February 27, 2006, at 0:36:55
when I crawl through the gutter, I expect to come face to face with the other slugs in the gutter. I welcome it. We can pass each other, share a hit, or fight. I've lived my life that way. Sometimes I leave my house (yes I have a house, because somebody loves me, and lets me live here) sometimes I leave my house and I walk down the street and I look everybody in the face - right in their face.
but everyonce in a while, the woman who loves me , and picked my up out of the f*cking street and saved my life, I try to do something normal with her. Like she's a lady. And she pays for it because I haven't worked for 19 months.And some Piece of Sh*t. who wouldn't have the balls to look me in the f*cking face. wants to break the law of my city that I have chosen as my home, and f*ck with my wife.
f*ck him and f*ck you. Do I feel f*cking better now? do I feel goood about myself. What the f*ck do You think .goddamnit. I have just sliced open the skin on my belly with the penknife of my dead grandfather in honor of this occasion.
Posted by James K on February 27, 2006, at 3:24:29
In reply to Nicely put. » Gabbix2, posted by TofuEmmy on February 26, 2006, at 10:18:50
I like my style. At the end of the day (yesterday) what did we have? One grown man with mental illness hurting himself out of impotent rage. One grown man with mental illness, still out there living or not based upon the standards he's set for his path.
I looked around, and nobody was hurt. Not five dead children in a bathtub. Everybodies' arms were still attached. So maybe someone could give me the same understanding and sympathy that is commonly given to people about 15 miles from here who do much worse than hurt somebody's feelings.
or not , because It's all just words on the internet isn't it. right just f*cking words. I like you style. I like the f*cking stye in your eye.James K
Posted by James K on February 27, 2006, at 4:15:31
In reply to Re: Nicely put. » TofuEmmy, posted by James K on February 27, 2006, at 3:24:29
I can't go to bed without discussing what is really happening here. I don't have a pdoc or a therapist. I went off of my meds about 3 days ago. I intended to stay off of alcohol too, but at the restuarent we went to, decided to drink. I didn't pick a target and go after it, I was just sitting in the passenger seat, and was instantly unbuckled, out the door, and going after someone. I'm not sorry towards him. But I am losing it. That was my point, no matter how macho or superior i expressed it. I went from full of seafood and martinis and happy and relaxed, to murder, in about one minute. And I couldn't let it go, all night. I bought a bottle of whiskey, and a 12 pack of beer and watched taped tv shows and tried to be "normal" and I still was f*cked up in the head about it. I stayed away from the internet for 24 or so hours after I vented, and the fact that someone had the slightest dissaproval tone, set me off again. I'm in trouble right now. I've asked my wife to please help me get through the red tape that's kept me out of the hospital, but everytime I think maybe I don't need hospital, just get my act together, something like a homeless person asking me for money sends me to another level. There was no thought involved, I just did. All my political and personal feelings are valid to me, and are real, but the real story is " I no longer have control over my physical and emotional reactions".
For whatever that is worth. Wherever the political board and the psychology board, and Me intersect, that is the last 2 or 3 days
Love,
James K
Posted by gardenergirl on February 27, 2006, at 7:33:05
In reply to Re: I just went after a beggar, posted by James K on February 27, 2006, at 2:15:29
> >
> f*ck him and f*ck you.Please don't post anything that could lead others to feel put down. You've been asked to be civil before, so I am blocking you for a week. Dr. Bob has oversight over deputy decisions, and he may choose another action.
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Posted by Dinah on February 27, 2006, at 10:06:03
In reply to I can't stay away, posted by James K on February 27, 2006, at 4:15:31
James, I hope you will bring yourself to go to a hospital and take care of your belly and your hand, and get some help for stabilizing your medications as well. And that they can help you explore some of the ideas you've talked about on Psychology.
Dinah
Posted by Gabbix2 on February 27, 2006, at 12:44:13
In reply to Re: Nicely put. » TofuEmmy, posted by James K on February 27, 2006, at 3:24:29
So maybe someone could give me the same understanding and sympathy that is commonly given to people about 15 miles from here who do much worse than hurt somebody's feelings.
***And I'm truly sorry.
I needed to be reminded of that.
I am sorry.
Posted by verne on February 27, 2006, at 13:48:56
In reply to I can't stay away, posted by James K on February 27, 2006, at 4:15:31
James,
Take care of yourself. You make some good points. I appreciate your honesty and courage to expose your feelings - even the negative ones.
I have an issue with anger too and have few friends left. I'm an expert at alienating and estranging others.
I'm glad you have someone.
I'm almost too hungover to post. Hope you're feeling better.
Verne
Posted by Gabbix2 on February 27, 2006, at 14:44:45
In reply to Nicely put. » Gabbix2, posted by TofuEmmy on February 26, 2006, at 10:18:50
Man if I keep learning stuff, I'm never going to be able to judge anyone, and where's the fun in *THAT*
Posted by AuntieMel on February 27, 2006, at 16:33:06
In reply to I just went after a beggar » Dinah, posted by James K on February 25, 2006, at 18:49:06
Sorry, but I don't think we can pin this on our new citizens.
I had the same thing (guy knocking on the window for a handout) just about every day after school - about 15 years ago. It's not all that new, just not common.
But when you're a flyweight girl like I was then it sure can be frightening.
Posted by Tamar on February 27, 2006, at 18:16:36
In reply to I just went after a beggar » Dinah, posted by James K on February 25, 2006, at 18:49:06
I don't know the whole story and I wasn't there. But it sounds to me as if you believed your wife was in genuine danger and you wanted to protect her. And for that you are definitely a good guy.
Tamar
Posted by Sobriquet Style on February 27, 2006, at 18:41:52
In reply to I can't stay away, posted by James K on February 27, 2006, at 4:15:31
Posted by henrietta on February 27, 2006, at 20:29:18
In reply to Re: Nicely put. » TofuEmmy, posted by Gabbix2 on February 27, 2006, at 14:44:45
All I ever knew of love was how to shoot somebody who outdrew ya. Not an accurat3 quote, I'm sure, but somehow this line keeps coming into my heAD WITH RELATION TO gB2. How about thinking first and shootin later, if necessary, girl?.
Posted by Gabbix2 on February 27, 2006, at 20:45:10
In reply to Re: Nicely put., posted by henrietta on February 27, 2006, at 20:29:18
Oh Henrietta, If my goal was to impress you with my posts, then perhaps I'd take that into consideration.
But, my feelings about who I am, and what I say are quite different than yours are. And I have no trouble with that.Now I was sure you had a D.N.P which I guess has now been revoked, as you posted to me.
And I'm not really fond of them, but
Please don't post to me.
Posted by Dr. Bob on February 27, 2006, at 23:00:53
In reply to Re: Nicely put., posted by henrietta on February 27, 2006, at 20:29:18
> How about thinking first and shootin later, if necessary, girl?.
Sounds like a good idea to me. Keeping in mind that the idea here is not to post anything that could lead others to feel accused, could you please rephrase that?
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Posted by henrietta on March 1, 2006, at 20:42:07
In reply to Re: please rephrase that » henrietta, posted by Dr. Bob on February 27, 2006, at 23:00:53
well, now, that's a hard one. you say it sounds like a good idea but i should rephrase it. hmmmm.
how about, what if we'd waited for the UN to complete its investigations before we invaded a country on invalid grounds and caused the deaths of thousands, and set off a civil war, and dramatically increased the threat of terrorism and worldwide catastrophe? nope. that doesn't sound quite right. i'm trying to read your mind, here. sounds like a good idea, but should be rephrashed....maybe shoot first and think later? nope,that doesn't sound right, either. let's see... how about the guy (i've thankfully blocked his name, mark something, i think, oh, could it be HYMEN?---surely not, such a private feminine word)on the conservative TV stations (taking over local news all over the country)---sinclair broadcasting-- who said tonight he's sick of katrina victims whining? no, gosh no. way off topic.
how bout this: i wish i'd learn to think first and, if necessary, shoot later. sounds like a good idea to me, and a good idea for everybody else. best i can do, buddy. amd i don't give a
falcon's feathers if it ain't good enough for you.
Posted by Dr. Bob on March 2, 2006, at 2:20:03
In reply to Re: please rephrase that » Dr. Bob, posted by henrietta on March 1, 2006, at 20:42:07
> he's sick of katrina victims whining
Please don't post anything that could lead others to feel accused or put down. Even if you're quoting someone else. The last time you were blocked it was for 1 week, so this time I'm making it for 2.
But please also don't take this personally, this doesn't mean I don't like you or think you're a bad person.
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Posted by NikkiT2 on March 3, 2006, at 17:11:55
In reply to Re: I just went after a beggar » James K, posted by Gabbix2 on February 25, 2006, at 19:37:40
Well.. You put that a WHOLE lots more civilly than I would have done.
Now I know why I don't come to politics. Well done gabbi *round of applause*
Nikki
ps - The 'femmes were awesome!! ;)
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