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Re: I'm sorry I've upset so many people. :( » Angel Girl

Posted by Fallen4MyT on January 25, 2005, at 17:18:50

In reply to Re: I'm sorry I've upset so many people. :( » Atticus, posted by Angel Girl on January 25, 2005, at 16:29:49

some of mine are gone too....i think?

> > Angel Girl,
> > You've nothing to apologize for. What you did was stir vigorous debate about what some see as the inequities in the punishment system around here, and in the quality of administration in general. Some boats need to be rocked -- only way to get Capt. Queeg's attention. Atticus
> > P.S. I couldn't help but notice, Capt., that you deleted three of my posts on Admin today. I thought it was against your policy to delete posts. I thought that was one of your justifications for leaving Angel Girl to slow roast.
>
> Atticus
>
> He deleted 3 of your posts? What were they? I find that very upsetting when he wouldn't show compassion for me and my feelings. I went through HELL over that word being next to my name, I begged and pleaded to no avail and then he just deletes 3 of your posts? I would like an explanation for this Dr. Bob. I promised you I would be good and I have but you have to play fair too. :(
>
> I would like to know what these 3 posts were.
>
> AG

 

Check the archives??? (nm)

Posted by alexandra_k on January 25, 2005, at 17:30:33

In reply to Re: I'm sorry I've upset so many people. :( » Angel Girl, posted by Fallen4MyT on January 25, 2005, at 17:18:50

 

Yes, I think the thread rolled over. (nm) » alexandra_k

Posted by Gabbix2 on January 25, 2005, at 17:33:00

In reply to Check the archives??? (nm), posted by alexandra_k on January 25, 2005, at 17:30:33

 

Re:I think the thread rolled over./ thxsu2 BUT... » Gabbix2

Posted by Fallen4MyT on January 25, 2005, at 17:49:37

In reply to Yes, I think the thread rolled over. (nm) » alexandra_k, posted by Gabbix2 on January 25, 2005, at 17:33:00

why would something posted yesterday roll over????

 

So they're just gone? (nm) » Fallen4MyT

Posted by Gabbix2 on January 25, 2005, at 18:00:56

In reply to Re:I think the thread rolled over./ thxsu2 BUT... » Gabbix2, posted by Fallen4MyT on January 25, 2005, at 17:49:37

 

Re: So they're just gone? / for a FACT (nm) » Gabbix2

Posted by Fallen4MyT on January 25, 2005, at 18:18:11

In reply to So they're just gone? (nm) » Fallen4MyT, posted by Gabbix2 on January 25, 2005, at 18:00:56

 

Have you checked??? » Fallen4MyT

Posted by alexandra_k on January 25, 2005, at 18:19:43

In reply to Re: So they're just gone? / for a FACT (nm) » Gabbix2, posted by Fallen4MyT on January 25, 2005, at 18:18:11

Tis a funny archive system.

 

Re: Have you checked???/ YES......and » alexandra_k

Posted by Fallen4MyT on January 25, 2005, at 18:29:39

In reply to Have you checked??? » Fallen4MyT, posted by alexandra_k on January 25, 2005, at 18:19:43


THANK YOU :) for your help I took a small summer break I have been around here a long time....I know more than some may think...they are GONE. Thanks again and I hope youre having a better day than the other day.

 

Re: Have you checked???/ YES......and

Posted by Gabbix2 on January 25, 2005, at 18:42:50

In reply to Re: Have you checked???/ YES......and » alexandra_k, posted by Fallen4MyT on January 25, 2005, at 18:29:39

Well, I have heard it's happened before *sigh*

 

oh and Sorry

Posted by Gabbix2 on January 25, 2005, at 18:45:09

In reply to Re: Have you checked???/ YES......and » alexandra_k, posted by Fallen4MyT on January 25, 2005, at 18:29:39

I wasn't meaning to insult your intelligence at all, I did see that the thread had rolled over but I guess it had nothing to do with your missing posts.
One time I made a flaming A*s of myself at Dr. Bob thinking that he'd deleted my post, when in fact it had just been archived

 

Re: oh and Sorry

Posted by alexandra_k on January 25, 2005, at 19:08:34

In reply to oh and Sorry, posted by Gabbix2 on January 25, 2005, at 18:45:09

One of mine went missing when a thread got redirected. It was around the time of the server changeover. It does happen sometimes.

 

Thanks everyone. I am ok :-)

Posted by alexandra_k on January 25, 2005, at 19:13:15

In reply to Re: oh and Sorry, posted by alexandra_k on January 25, 2005, at 19:08:34

Thanks for the hugs
And the support
And the appreciation
And the caring

I really appreciate it.
I am feeling better today.
At times like this I am reminded of why I am here.
Hugs.

 

Re: I'm sorry I've upset so many people. :( » Angel Girl

Posted by Atticus on January 25, 2005, at 20:09:41

In reply to Re: I'm sorry I've upset so many people. :( » Atticus, posted by Angel Girl on January 25, 2005, at 16:29:49

They were similar to my three "I am protesting..." posts, where a single message was spread out over triple posts to eat up more board space and force the remaining "*ntichrist" headers at the beginning of the poll off the board. First, he put up a "let's keep it administrative" post (again). When I checked back in the afternoon, his warning and all three posts had been zapped into the cyberether. I guess he doesn't like it much when someone just bypasses him and decides to simply take concrete action to right a perceived wrong. Maybe he feels it makes Bob Almighty seem like a false god. I dunno. Atticus

 

Re: Thanks everyone. I am ok :-) » alexandra_k

Posted by Atticus on January 25, 2005, at 20:23:18

In reply to Thanks everyone. I am ok :-), posted by alexandra_k on January 25, 2005, at 19:13:15

See, luv? I plunged into the heart of the storm, and though 3 of my posts went bye-bye under mysterious circumstances, I didn't get blocked. This was just a battle I just couldn't stand by and watch, and though I do tend to play things fast and loose, I'm still standing. I think Bob relies an awful lot on fear of repercussions for posts among the Babblers to maintain control. But it's really an illusion. The emperor has no clothes. He's a bunch of 1's and 0's in a digital database. He always reminds me of the Great and Powerful Oz from the film "The Wizard of Oz". One peek at the little psychiatrist behind the curtain, though, and it's pretty hard to be frightened of the consequences of taking him on when I believe a poor decision has been made. Ta. :) Atticus

 

Sorry Atticus, but I don't think you are helping (nm)

Posted by alexandra_k on January 25, 2005, at 20:33:20

In reply to Re: Thanks everyone. I am ok :-) » alexandra_k, posted by Atticus on January 25, 2005, at 20:23:18

 

Re: Sorry Atticus, but I don't think you are helping » alexandra_k

Posted by Atticus on January 25, 2005, at 20:44:53

In reply to Sorry Atticus, but I don't think you are helping (nm), posted by alexandra_k on January 25, 2005, at 20:33:20

Not helping what in what way? I admit I'm loathe to go back to the power structure where the kind of thing that happened to Angel Girl is accepted with a resigned shrug of the shoulders and a sigh of surrender. But it appears that's where things are heading. Not a place I want to be. I think it's time for a break from PB. No block needed. Atticus

 

Re: Sorry Atticus, but I don't think you are helping » alexandra_k

Posted by Atticus on January 25, 2005, at 20:49:43

In reply to Sorry Atticus, but I don't think you are helping (nm), posted by alexandra_k on January 25, 2005, at 20:33:20

See you after a bit, Alex. I've been spending far too much time here anyway. Time for a holiday. Angel Girl seems to be comfortable sticking around, at least at this point. Ironically, following your comment, I do not. Atticus

 

Atticus, Atticus

Posted by Dinah on January 25, 2005, at 21:11:13

In reply to Re: Sorry Atticus, but I don't think you are helping » alexandra_k, posted by Atticus on January 25, 2005, at 20:49:43

No freedom fighter can expect to find universal approbation. People are bound to disagree on the best way to go about things. That's no reason to feel uncomfortable, or to leave. There have been too many casualties in this skirmish already.

Can we start to bind one another's wounds?

 

Re: Sorry Atticus, but I don't think you are helping » Atticus

Posted by alexandra_k on January 25, 2005, at 21:11:36

In reply to Re: Sorry Atticus, but I don't think you are helping » alexandra_k, posted by Atticus on January 25, 2005, at 20:44:53

> Not helping what in what way?

Not helping Lou or Angel Girl or myself or any of the other posters to move on.

>I admit I'm loathe to go back to the power structure where the kind of thing that happened to Angel Girl is accepted with a resigned shrug of the shoulders and a sigh of surrender.

We had a go Atticus. We had a really good go. It wasn't just accepted 'with a resigned shrug of the shoulders'.

But this isn't really about Angel Girl anymore anyway, is it Atticus?

I didn't get the impression that the word itself was 'bad' - just the particular context. If I thought the word itself was 'bad' then I wouldn't have put it in the subject heading. Angel Girl did not seem offended by that. Maybe someone is offended. If so I am sorry. Did I offend you Atticus?

How is forcing my subject heading into the archives supposed to help? What is it supposed to help?

I will miss you immensely if you go Atticus.
You have an amazing ability to crack me up with your witty banter. Come back to social Atticus. Come back to writing. I did not mean to hurt you.

 

Thank you for the clarification. (nm) » Atticus

Posted by Angel Girl on January 25, 2005, at 21:15:28

In reply to Re: I'm sorry I've upset so many people. :( » Angel Girl, posted by Atticus on January 25, 2005, at 20:09:41

 

Re: Thanks everyone. I am ok :-) » Atticus

Posted by Angel Girl on January 25, 2005, at 21:29:28

In reply to Re: Thanks everyone. I am ok :-) » alexandra_k, posted by Atticus on January 25, 2005, at 20:23:18

> See, luv? I plunged into the heart of the storm, and though 3 of my posts went bye-bye under mysterious circumstances, I didn't get blocked. This was just a battle I just couldn't stand by and watch, and though I do tend to play things fast and loose, I'm still standing. I think Bob relies an awful lot on fear of repercussions for posts among the Babblers to maintain control. But it's really an illusion. The emperor has no clothes. He's a bunch of 1's and 0's in a digital database. He always reminds me of the Great and Powerful Oz from the film "The Wizard of Oz". One peek at the little psychiatrist behind the curtain, though, and it's pretty hard to be frightened of the consequences of taking him on when I believe a poor decision has been made. Ta. :) Atticus


Atticus

Then I shall be frightened for you. :(

AG

 

PLEASE DON'T GO, YOU'RE MAKING ME SO SAD » Atticus

Posted by Angel Girl on January 25, 2005, at 21:57:05

In reply to Re: Sorry Atticus, but I don't think you are helping » alexandra_k, posted by Atticus on January 25, 2005, at 20:49:43

> See you after a bit, Alex. I've been spending far too much time here anyway. Time for a holiday. Angel Girl seems to be comfortable sticking around, at least at this point. Ironically, following your comment, I do not. Atticus

Atticus

PLEASE don't leave. I will miss you terribly. This is all so depressing. :( <cries> LIFE SUCKS!!! I should've kept my feelings to myself and none of this would've happened. :(

AG

 

Re: Sorry Atticus, but I don't think you are helping » alexandra_k

Posted by Atticus on January 26, 2005, at 10:03:35

In reply to Re: Sorry Atticus, but I don't think you are helping » Atticus, posted by alexandra_k on January 25, 2005, at 21:11:36

I just need some time away. And yes, you did hurt me. If that comment had come from someone I didn't consider such a good friend, it wouldn't have bothered me. And as long as you're engaging in amateur psychoanalyis here, yes, this is also about something else, something bigger. I'm loathe at the thought that everything will just go back to the way it was. Forcing the archiving of the offensive word utterly constituted at least SOME small act of defiance against the fascistic power structure here. It was meant to say to Bob that there are some things we can do here whether you like them or not. But now everything will simply slump back under the rubric of "normal." It's "normal" to be ruled as if by a dictator here. It's "normal" to just put up his caprices. It's "normal" to have him wear us out and for us to give up. Well, fuck that. I do not and will never accept that kind of "normal." I'd like to see him bend and compromise -- genuinely compromise -- on an issue at least one time. But I can't do it all by myself. This anger and frustration is completely destabilizing my behavior IRL -- yesterday I even yelled at my boss -- and I knew, underneath it all, the real cause for my fury at an unjust world lay with this site. So for the nonce, it's time for me to scarper. Everyone brings his or her own agenda to this place. Mine is obviously different from yours. So the only thing for it, as I see it, is for me to go on a 3-4 week non-Babble holiday. Maybe I'll feel more balanced by then. Christ, I hope so. Ta. Atticus is leaving the building

 

It's only a few weeks away, luv -- l'll be back » Angel Girl

Posted by Atticus on January 26, 2005, at 10:09:30

In reply to PLEASE DON'T GO, YOU'RE MAKING ME SO SAD » Atticus, posted by Angel Girl on January 25, 2005, at 21:57:05

I think I've just worked myself into such a severely emotional state that I need a few weeks to regain some serenity. I hope you'll still be here when I eventually pop back. In the meantime, enjoy the company of all the new friends you've made during this fracas. I gave you my e-mail address, and you can Babblemail me as well. I just want no contact with the lunacy of the administration of these boards for about a month.
Stay sweet. Have faith. Ta. ;) Atticus

 

Re: It's only a few weeks away, luv -- l'll be back » Atticus

Posted by Angel Girl on January 26, 2005, at 15:47:44

In reply to It's only a few weeks away, luv -- l'll be back » Angel Girl, posted by Atticus on January 26, 2005, at 10:09:30

> I think I've just worked myself into such a severely emotional state that I need a few weeks to regain some serenity. I hope you'll still be here when I eventually pop back. In the meantime, enjoy the company of all the new friends you've made during this fracas. I gave you my e-mail address, and you can Babblemail me as well. I just want no contact with the lunacy of the administration of these boards for about a month.
> Stay sweet. Have faith. Ta. ;) Atticus


Atticus

Your leaving has emotionally affected me in a very negative way. It would've been avoided had it not been for me and my stupid feelings. I kept expressing my concern for you on the boards and in babblemail and you kept saying not to worry, that you were ok but you aren't. I was right all along. You lied to me. Why did you do that? When I first came back to these boards, I promised myself that I wasn't going to let anybody penetrate my soul, I had to keep my guard up because when I don't, I end up getting hurt but when I was blocked, I received this overwhelming love and support from you and so many others. Before I knew it, I opened up my heart and I let you all in. It happened without me even being aware that I was letting my guard down. It was too late. I felt I had made friends and I felt good for the first time in a very long time. I felt understood and I wasn't and I'm still not used to people fighting for me. I'm just not worth all of the good that was and still is (I think) directed my way. I understood your fight with Dr. Bob but I knew that your posts were definitely crossing over the line of civility and increasingly so with each one. I PLEADED with you to stop but you didn't listen and now you have to leave because of what it has done to you. I knew you weren't ok even though you said that you were. Had it not been for me expressing my stupid feelings towards that damn word, all of this ugliness that has occurred would never have happened. Yes, you gave me your email addy, I used it, you didn't reply me.

So, here I am without my T to help me, like you unable to function IRL. I was supposed to go to my sister's today, I had to cancel. I've been hiding all this from my family for the last couple of weeks and doing a damn good job of it too but I was forced into telling her what happened. Surprising, she told me that word would've equally repulsed her too. I didn't expect her to understand. I feel so responsible for all the bad that has come out of this and I *felt* I had made a friend in you and now you are gone. I feel so horrible. My stupid feelings have caused so much pain to so many here. I never expected this snowball effect. I've never had anybody fight for me before. I feel so much sadness and guilt. Atticus, I'm soooooo very, very sorry for what I have done to you, I'm sooooo sorry for what I have done to so many here. My feelings aren't worth all this sadness and pain that I have caused so many. I should never have let my guard down and let so many people into my heart. It always leads to hurt, hurt for me and hurt for so many others here. The guilt and depression is just too much for me. I feel like curling up in a corner and dying. I feel so alone and I miss you terribly. I tried to save you several times but I couldn't. I don't even know if you'll even read this post to you. And all this over one bloody word that repulses me no less today than when I first saw it. DAMN THAT WORD AND DAMN MY FEELINGS.

AG


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