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Re: internet and the manufacture of madness... » Jost

Posted by alexandra_k on September 13, 2006, at 23:21:48

In reply to Re: internet and the manufacture of madness... » Estella, posted by Jost on September 13, 2006, at 22:00:07

> Did you mean Szasz?

> as in Dr. Thomas Szasz?

yes indeedie do. he has been given an unnecessarily hard time imho. if you can access the above articles (which i guess you can) then i'll hunt down an article by Szasz which is fairly short so you can see what i'm saying if you like. i mean i disagree with some of his assumptions, but he isn't a raving loonie. he makes some very good points.

> also-- did you read the comments?

yes i did.

> Is the original article there?

first link is the original article.
second link takes you to the table of contents for that edition of the journal.
there are three responses / commentaries. well... two responses and one response to the response.

> I read the first comment-- wow that guy needs an editor-- real bad.

lol. yeah i agree. thats why i said 'where do they find these people'? generally it is quite a good journal (imo) so that article surprised me greatly.

> He makes the original article sound pretty awful-- although I don't see how the internet plays into what he talked about.

yeah. though... i think in many respects the original article was pretty awful...

> I'll have to read more later-- but sounds fairly pernicious to me, at first glance. Not the internet part, but the part about there being "facts" about autonomy that are similar to facts about doing a high jump-- if you think the facts are calculable concrete details like "strength of one's legs" and "height of the jump"--

i guess i'll have to read it again... i don't remember that part. i was browsing looking for something else but hit upon that. i'm more interested in the taxonomy debate and whether the notion of dysfunction / disability / illness is objective or essentially involves a value judgement.

> and also their analogy between the kind of automony that they're talking about and some type of moral or philsophical concept of autonomy. Iie according to the comment)

i don't remember that either...
did sound a little like they thought that patient autonomy was a bad thing, however. see what happens? the loonies get ahold of the internet and congregate making themselves worse...

 

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