Posted by Spoc on April 1, 2005, at 14:31:52
In reply to Re: Strivectin? » Spoc, posted by rainbowbrite on April 1, 2005, at 13:03:16
(AHAs)
> Ok I have to run and check soemthing....my memory is trying to tell me soemthinig...I think i have some of this stuff....brb....OK it is something called reversa with glocolic acid and matrixyl. I got it from a party I went to. I was afraid to use it, still not sure what it is but it sounds like it is in the same family.
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Don't let the word "acid" scare you, btw! What AHAs do is clear off very superficial layers of dead skin, and dissolve oils to clear pores. It will sting a little, especially if you have any abrasions already (avoid those areas if so). The stinging is fine, not in itself a sign of a reaction or anything, and goes away in seconds.Actually I have a brand called MD Forte (facial lotion), that comes in strengths of 10 to 30 percent. It is cloudy, and thin like water, and has no moisturizers in it (I like those best, to use in conjunction with whatever else I use without doubling and tripling up on moisturizers). Sometimes when I am too lazy to wash my face, but don't want oils building up, I just pat on a few dots of it and it seems to be almost as "cleansing" as washing my face. (Of course it wouldn't remove all your makeup well enough if you had it on, but it would still help a ton to keep it from melting into your pores, say if you got lazy and slept with makeup on.)
That product is available in many derm offices, or I get it -- along with other nonprescription products that I like -- at a site called skinstore.com. Good selection and a reliable site (but don't listen to what they say works! ;-). There are also user reviews posted there, but don't listen to them either, unless they sound like me, lol.
<groan> I'm compelled to throw this in: if you want a great daily moisturizer that has also been shown to cause cellular turnover, get Kinerase lotion or cream. It doesn't cause as much cell turnover as tretinoin, but does so without causing *any* flaking or irritation at all. And amongst other things, it may be better for summer because you don't need to stay out of the sun or use sunblock with it (though of course we should all watch that kind of thing anyway).
Now here's the clincher missy: IT IS BELOVED BY THE STARS!!! Brad and Jennifer buy it by the case (and I'm sure they still do, albeit now going to separate mailing addresses)!!
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> Mine is on his own, but I think he may read cosmo lol he is all up on womens fashions and stuff its hilarious. I could check around for another one, I know my mom goes to one that has one along side the doc.
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Yeah, sounds like if he's like that you're all set. It's just nice to have a doc who is at least as familiar with various product frenzies as the typical layperson, or else we may be disappointed and start to wonder if s/he's informed enough. Many will just take the position that everything is junk or junk science, until it is studied without bias (usually meaning without any manufacturer or seller involvement). Which most "revolutionary" products that are actually effective eventually will be, so their reasoning is ok IMO.I'd rather wait, because unless we're rich it isn't so "ok" to just go ahead and try all these zillion dollar products. And as far as claims of actual physiological skin improvements, most of us really can't trust ourselves to evaluate whether something is working. The "placebo" effect and yearning to believe, and to look better, is just too strong here. (I could launch into whether making us feel good, even if only by placebo effect, may indeed be good enough reason to use a product, but will control myself!)
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> Yeha i think Id wait on spending a fortune on this stuff till I really need it. My fear is that I will use it now and then it wont be effective later,
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Hmmm, interesting, I don't know if that is true or not. My guess would be that in reality, it would just be because if you never used them and then suddenly did later in life, you'd be able to see a "bigger bang" immediately. Rather than have benefit and "prevention" happening slowly all along. Now, when it comes to plastic surgery of some "anti-aging" types (e.g. facelift), starting TOO young may invalidate better benefits later (but actually that manages to get debated too).
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> but it sounds like it just helps more to use the creams early.
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Yeah, that's all you really need right now to keep you where you should be, so why not enjoy this relatively inexpensive era! You just want to keep dead skin stripped off and your pores unclogged all along, but things like trentinoin, AHA and maybe occasional other home exfoliation will do that sufficiently.> Ill try Spoc...but I cant promise anything LOL
Now would you PLEASE stop NOT asking me anything, lol. (I AM kidding, you really are not asking me anything! ;)
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> PS-you said you murdered your computer? Well, can I hire you for a hit job on mine?
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Hmmm, ok! But let's make this is clean as possible: I know some GREAT free programs for you to download off the Internet, lol! One is at www.pretendthisprogramisusefulbutinfectmycomputer.com.
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