Posted by alexandra_k on July 23, 2018, at 2:08:18
In reply to Re: Paul Jay, posted by sigismund on July 22, 2018, at 14:20:00
I had heard vaguely about detention camps in Australia. Or just out of Australia (so what goes on there is not covered by Australian laws - or similar). It isn't something that I have followed, though. I have also vaguely heard that NZ has detention / refugee camps in Auckland, and probably other places around the country, too.
It is a really hard thing. I guess it takes time and money to process people. To have people look into their story, I mean, and see if there is coroboration for who they are. Whether they have certain qualifications, or not, worked certain jobs, or not, whether they are involved with people who may have hostile intention, or not. And so on... Whether they are the criminals of the country, the major persecutors who have realised their time is up back home and that is why they are fleeing for a 'better life'. Or whether they really were the victims of the unaccountable persecutors back home...
I do worry that most of the immigrants we accept (in NZ, anyway) are likely to be persecutors back home. Because people here seem so very corruptable by shiny things. So... How bad do detention / refugee camps need to be in order for only those genuinely seeking refuge to be willing to be placed in one? I think there may be an element of that... An element of that in the advertising about them -- I mean.
Consider the middle managers in Ireland... The ones who got rich(er) from subdividing the land into smaller and smaller and smaller blocks to sublet. Those people. As a group it seems that those people are most culpable. But I guess those are the people who made enough to flee... And, from their perspective, if they didn't subdivide smaller and smaller they wouldn't have made the money they needed for them and theirs to flee... The problem (well before the famine) was the extreme poverty that had such a high proportion of people in Ireland getting by with sections only small enough to support them with potato... And of course 'groups of people' is problematic.. And me (especially) is a really great fan of not blaming the... uh... idiosyncratic... for the failings of their various groups.
Sigh.
I usually... Interpret... An ambiguity in refugee situations. It is common to see a man tightly gripping a woman's wrist with a child carried in front of him.
If it was a true family situation... I think it likely the guy would be more protective of the woman and child... Rather than brandishing them about as... Hostages.Apparently there is evidence that those who have been victimised are most likely to go on to be persecutors / abusers. That's how come one of the Medical Schools here asks about whether you have anything to declare (or whether the police may have anything to declare) about your status not only as persecutor (offender of crimes - whether you have been the object of inquiry OR convicted) BUT ALSO whether you have been recorded as having been the victim of violent crime. Or a witness of violent crime. Because that's the point of ''Dexter'' - right? To make sure that the (rather large) class of people who have witnessed violent crimes never ever ever ever ever get to obtain professional employment. Because of ''Dexter'' (folk psychology and the hollywood psychopath) - right?
It's not at all about blaming the victim. Or about keeping the oppressed (those who lacked the power to have the record expunged) oppressed... It's for the good of us all?
Yeah, right.
Australia really does have some wonderful cartoons / cartoonists. That is CLASSIC about the potato (the abundance of potato being a symbol of wealth, clearly).
Sigh.
I have to sit the UMAT on Wednesday:
I can't talk about any of the practice material questions, but mateship, sports teams, and the like, are themes that have occurred. I won't lie, I seem to do best on the 'Aussie values' section (aka 'Interpersonal reasoning'), but it is an odd thing. To be sure. They are actually fond of cartoons -- and interpretations of them. Australia does indeed like a good cartoon. I won't lie -- some of the questions are brilliant. But some of them a a bit odd, for sure.
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