Posted by alexandra_k on May 19, 2018, at 20:15:59
In reply to Re: don't know what's wrong, posted by alexandra_k on May 19, 2018, at 19:58:54
I can only think to myself that these people have signed themselves out of civilised society. Because of what they chose to do. I don't know if their project was their own idea, or whether people said they would pay them to do those things, or whether people said they had to pay whatever in student fees for the privaledge of getting to do those things... They did those things. They stood up and said they had done them. The rat lady even said that when she started out wanting to do research on effects of exercise on muscle she would have thought her line a complete waste of time...
But gradually over time... She became pursuaded.
There is this idea that I hear from people that the only way you get to the top is by becoming one of them. That there is a sense of that.
But I guess that's the thing... I don't buy into any of that. Whatever they have identified as the 'top' is not someplace that is a target of mine...
I'm interested in what isn't around. What I don't see. What is lacking from this place I'm in. What it is about my situation here that has be wondering why I'd been born. What it was about my situation in Canberra and North Carolina that made me genuinely want to help people.
In the... I don't want to torture undergraduates or rats -- I want to help people sense.
In the... I refuse to complete a degree majoring in physiology because of the animal torture experiments that are required... Sense.
I do want to do things... But not at any cost.
Well controlled puppets... I don't know...
Someone I know did kill 7 cats for neuroscience research. But he was genuine... As in he genuinely thought he would be able to understand a certain kind of neurones response to visual information more from his experiment. He had a lot of math... Data from 7 cats... I remember that sense of genuine...
And it's different from what I see where what I see doesn't even have confidence intervals or error margins around slope...
Thats a difference...
Fools jump in...
I do have respect for philosophy. For the arts as helping make life worth living. For happy and productive artists.
But we can't have that when a bunch of other infrastructure isn't in place yet.
It is one thing to have the arts as something for people who didn't get ot learn skills that could have them contribute to that other infrastructure...
It is something different entirely to kick people back to the arts in favor of promoting ones own alpha or beta baby by design...
Especially when that baby you force to become an engineer or whatever might have been a wonderful artist.
I wonder what the free market would do if we stopped trying to artificailly impose a hierarchy of being.
You know, teh employment hierarchy
manager
manager
manager
manager
administrator
support person
...
...
cleanerwhich only causes more and more and more and more to become susceptible to infection...
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