Posted by Gabbix2 on February 3, 2006, at 22:01:22
In reply to Re: Andrea Yates made bail » Gabbix2, posted by alexandra_k on February 3, 2006, at 20:52:13
> > I agree with what you've said about Hitler, though I'm not calling myself a determinist because of it.
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> So... Hitler's behaviour was determined by his genes and his environment but other peoples isn't?
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No. That's not what I'm saying, about it..believe Hitler was mad, what he did that consumed his life, it was his sole purpose.. I think many crimes are a matter of choice.
> I'm not really a determinist... It is possible that there is a genuine indeterminacy at the sub-atomi level and it is possible that that indeterminacy 'percolates up' to the macroscopic level as well... But in an indeterministic world you just replace:
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> genes + environment (determine)-> beliefs + desires and other mental states (determine)->behaviour
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> with
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> genes + environment (determine the probability of various outcomes) -> beliefs etc etc.
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> > > Too radical yet?
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> > I'm not sure what you mean. Radical means "from the roots"
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> I didn't know that. Although... I am getting the feeling that someone here has told me that before. Maybe... It was you?No, it wasn't me.
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> > I guess if you're labelling yourself something, and not deviating from it's theories then it's technically radical, though I think that's actually very conservative thinking no matter whether it's determinism, or fundamentalist religion.
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> I guess I've heard the term 'radical' to dennote 'extremists'. So... Greenpeace activists are 'radical' in the sense that they are VERY left wing. And people who are very much to the right sometimes describe themselves as radical too.
>Yes that's it, they go to the very roots of their belief, and are extreme because of it
and yet, I think the thought may be uncommon, the thinking behind them is still very conservative when one adheres themselves to pre established ideas. No matter what they are.
> Maybe I was thinking... That my views aren't likely to be shared by the majority of people. They would find them too 'out there'.
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> I dunno.It would have surprised me if it had been the case.
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