Posted by lil' jimi on November 10, 2005, at 21:36:30
In reply to Re: t o r t u r e, posted by Declan on November 10, 2005, at 13:08:28
declan writes:
> There is an academic here (Australia) in some law department made who the usual arguments in favour of torture (What if ripping someone's fingernails out would save a thousand lives, let's regularise it, we can't rule it out). It was controversial and dealt with in the quality press, but it would only take (the expected) terrorist attack to make such arguments more acceptable. I've been dreading what such an attack would do to politics here. It's already bad enough.
> Declandeclan, declan ...
i do not mean to be one-upping you here.
... and it so in keeping with the braggart Texan motif ... ... i live in austin ...
there are a lot of the r*dneck elements which australia and texas have in common ..."an academic" you say?
well, it's not like your chief law enforcement officer (Attorney General of the United States Alberto Gonzales) is known to have helped author the white house memo on torture and referred to the Geneva Conventions as obsolete.
see
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20040607/editors
http://www.americanprogress.org/site/pp.asp?c=biJRJ8OVF&b=246536
http://kbonline.typepad.com/random/files/gonzales_memo_on_gen_conv_january_25_2002_pt_1.pdfor when the vice president's chief of staff (I. Lewis Libby) was indicted for obstruction of justice, David Addington, the chief author of the white house torture memo gets promoted to replace Libby ...
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/11/01/1518210
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9917435/
http://nationaljournal.com/about/njweekly/stories/2005/1030nj1.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Addingtonthere is practically no (positive) quality in the mainstream media here and only lately have they begun to deal with any of this. ... ... but only after someone got re-elected a year ago ... ...
if only this were some ramblings of some denizen of academia's ivory towers ...
... instead of major operators within the administration of the world's only super power ...take care,
~ jim
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