Posted by lil' jimi on November 10, 2005, at 11:28:10
In reply to Re: t o r t u r e » lil' jimi, posted by zeugma on November 9, 2005, at 19:12:14
z,
the extent to which they, who oppose banning torture by our (US) services and their agents, have impugned the united states can not be overstated ... except here, where we must moderate our phrasing for other reasons ...
that it is now in fact possible and is in fact actually happening that a person can be designated an "illegal combatant" by executive fiat, lose all Constitutional rights, be held without charges or any recourse to any judicial review, in a secret CIA prison in an unnamed foreign country ... ... ... and TORTURED ... ... ...
... all funded with the tax dollars of american taxpayers ... is as undeniable as it is beyond belief.please, excuse me, but what was it that my country was founded for?
this makes me extremely angry and profoundly sad.
these are nontrivial reasons for my daily antidepressant dosage.i think when there is a discussion about bad torture versus good torture, it should not be non-controversial.
i think it should be a big controversy.
it should be a controversy that there could even be any debate at all.to restrain an incarcerated person and deliberately inflict pain on them FOR ANY reason is wrong.
this must be repudiated.
here and everywhere.
even if we (i) do have to tone it down some here.civilly,
~ j
poster:lil' jimi
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