Posted by AuntieMel on May 26, 2005, at 13:02:58
In reply to Re: Internet Hunting ... I just have to jump in, posted by so on May 26, 2005, at 11:58:32
A few comments - using my observations. Not to be taken as a definitive answer:
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> If one cannot state what one feels about certain things, then what good is a board. Is a discussion not the exchange of views, opinions, arguments?These are interesting questions. If you find a reliable answer I would be interested to read it. I would think if a person inquired of the admin, on some days, some people would get an answer somewhat to the effect that "That's what a discussion can be but not here."
ME: Exchanges of differing views is allowed anywhere around here. However, some of the boards lend themselves to this more than others. This one, for example, is more likely to house debates than others - and in fact was put here to keep these type debates here where those who are troubled by debating won't be as exposed.
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I would tend to concur, but based on my reading here, and my direct interactions, there is some fine difference between a finding and a statement of a feeling. It doesn't leave room for personal findings, sometimes. I've been told that stating what something is "To me" is not the formal "I-statement" preferred of writers here, and even then, some "I-statements" though I don't know for sure which ones, are not tolerated. Well, the statements are tolerated becasue the administration continues to publish them on the server he rents, but the people who write them are sometimes not afforded as much tolerence as others.
> From what I understand we are free to post our opinions and to challenge that of others here but not allowed to attack others because of their opinion.
A governing concept, not reliably applied as I've been able to measure, is that to "put down" an idea can tend to put down people who hold that idea.
ME: It's subtle, to be sure. But from what I've seen "I think hunting is disgusting" would be considered to possible extend to 'hunters are disgusting' and "I'm troubled by hunting" wouldn't.
And "I had bad experiences with therapy" is fine, while "I think therapy is a waste of money" isn't - as it implies that anyone in therapy is wasting money.
Another thing that seems to be factored in is the tone of the thread. If it seems to be getting heated the rules might be applied more strictly in order to keep things from escalating out of control.
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> Again, maybe its an issue distinction between stating an opinion and attacking someone who has a different opinion.
Someday someone might count all these interventions, but until then I can only say "many" are targeted at people who call a contrary opinion wrong, or actions based on a contrary opinion less than honorable.
ME: Exactly. Calling a contrary opinion wrong can be seen as a value judgement against the person holding the opinion.There is a *big* difference in saying you disagree with the opinion (we all are entitled to our opinions) and saying it is wrong.
along the same lines you said:
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For example, if a person rights "benzos kill brian cells. It is messed up to prescribe benzos" a typical response in my experience would be along the lines of "it can make people who think otherwise feel put down."
ME: this is true - it can. Perhaps benzos are the only thing that work for this person. Different things work for different people and there really isn't a right or wrong in that tyoe situation. So people might take saying their behavior is messed up to be the same as saying they themselves are messed up.
Gotta run - late for the doc.
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