Posted by Molybdenum on June 25, 2008, at 6:36:31
In reply to Celexa and MJ - do they cancel out?, posted by worriedgf on June 25, 2008, at 0:58:58
Hi worriedgf,
Firstly, sorry to hear about you being worried. Worried is one of those things I'm going to ban when I become "king of ze verld". I'm also going to ban dark blue socks. I stupidly bought 6 pairs of dark blue and 6 pairs of black ones and every time I wash them I have to go outside to make sure they're matched up. If I added up all the time I've spent outside matching up socks, I'm sure I could have built a small house. If you have any requests for when I'm king, just mail me. ;)
Secondly, there's another message board here called "Psycho-Babble Substance Use". It's not as busy as this one but it's much more likely to have people who have gone through what you are now. So I suggest you repost your query over there. http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/subs/
If you're bored to death, then read on as I waffle: :)
I haven't smoked since I was a teenager. To be honest, I never really liked it. And I tried really hard to like it. I smoked a lot of it in an effort to get to liking it but gave up in the end. I liked the utter living crap out of a lot of other drugs like LSD, methamphetamine and heroin - but not MJ. ;)
From my personal experience, I would class MJ as a mild psychedelic or better still as a "stupefying" drug. I know a lot of people say it relaxes them and some take it to relieve physical pain, but for me I found it "clouded" my thinking.
I recall seeing a cartoon in a magazine from about 40 years ago - but it was so perfect (IMHO) I remember it well. There's these cavemen sitting around in a cave smoking a joint and one of them says "Wow, it makes everything I think seem profound". That pretty much sums up my feelings about MJ.
As for citalopram, I used that for years to treat depression. It worked quite well until it stopped working - they call it "pooping out". So I swapped over to some other ones that are working well for me. So other than pooping out, it was a fine anti-depressant drug.
Now, I would most definitely argue that citalopram & MJ do NOT cancel each other out. They are very different. I'm talking pianos & ice-cream different.
To give you an idea of what your bf might be like "moving forward", I suggest you rent or preferably download illegally, a movie called "Super High Me" made in 2007. I suspect a lot of it will look painfully familiar. I didn't like watching the movie and I suspect neither will you. The suggestion in the movie is that some people never "grow out of it". And despite being quite fond of many drugs - legal or otherwise over the years, I would personally not be thrilled at the prospect of having children with a heavy MJ user. It just strikes me as a drug for people that "want out". I don't mean to criticise such desires, I just find it difficult to reconcile the idea of that kind of thinking with my thoughts on "being a good parent". I believe that parenting is just about the ONLY thing in this life that you need to take seriously. So watch the movie and try to decide if it makes you feel like having babies with this person. Hmmm....
From my personal experience, I can honestly say that I've never found heavy users of MJ to appear terribly intelligent or witty or interesting to talk to when they're stoned. So I tend to think of it as a drug that "dumbs down" the mind. That's just my 5c worth. And when I talk to someone - particularly someone I have feelings for, I like to think that I'm talking with "the real person" - not someone who's mind has gone away on vacation. :)
And as far as you living 5 hrs away being part of the reason HE needs citalopram, well that's just not true at all. The citalopram is to treat his depression or other psychiatric illness for which citalopram is indicated. I'm sure you're an interesting , beautiful, intelligent & charming girl that any bf in his right mind would miss terribly when you're away. However, I don't believe your beauty, personality or impressive intellect is capable of inducing clinical depression or other psychiatric disorders in people by your absence. Do you..? :) OK.
Well my last bit of advice it to follow your heart. Try to work out if your bf makes you feel full of joy & enthusiasm or do you feel more mixed or unpleasant emotions. And don't expect to be able to change people into what you'd like them to be. I don't think that works out very often either.
Good luck & Take care
Mr. Molybdenum
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