Posted by Meri-Tuuli on May 15, 2006, at 5:31:34
In reply to Is there a difference? Suicide and just wishing?, posted by Bonnie_CA on May 14, 2006, at 23:56:39
Hi!
> It's like, "Darn, I woke up again!"
I know that feeling only all too well, unfortunately.
I think its important that you tell the pdoc everything, that includes your thoughts of wishing you were dead, even if its not particulary 'suicidal'. I mean, I think its up to the pdoc to deceide 'how suicidal' you are, if you know what I mean. And the 'wishing you were dead' thoughts might indicate something to the pdoc that is important - we just don't know, because we're not the pdocs. And it might tell him/her something about the development of your condition, like if last time you saw him/her you hadn't had these thoughts, so now having them would indicate to the pdoc that your current treatment isn't working.
So I would just tell him/her how it really is, because that way they'd get a clear picture of your mental state.
But with regards to is there a difference between the two, well I'd say it was a continuum. I've thought about this, but its different for everyone . People have different thesholds and things. And for some reason, women are more likely to be depressed, but more men commit suicide. And when women do attempt suicide, it seems to be with less aggressive methods, eg overdosing rather than using a gun. But that doesn't mean that women are less 'suicidal'. Just that it isn't successful.
I don't know how pdocs assess whether someone is really suicidal, ie need to be hospilalized. I guess its based on lots of different factors.
And don't forget that people have different meanings with their words - someone could be really high drama, threatnening suicide all over the place etc, but not really mean it, compared to an extrememly modest, understatment type of person who might just say 'I feel like killing myself' which to them, really means that they will do it.
Kind regardsMeri
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