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Posted by yesac on July 30, 2003, at 12:04:38
I've been reading some of the posts by kara lynne and Hoping, and the responses that they got. I know they are a few days old, but I haven't gotten the chance lately to read/write here as much as usual. And I wanted to comment on this stuff...
Well, I too feel bad when there aren't a lot or any responses to what I post. And I feel good when there are a lot of responses! I like having new people on the board and I like it when different people respond to my posts than usual. I don't know about the clique thing. I certainly feel like there are some people who respond to some people a lot and not to others as much/ever. But I do that too. I've realized that I don't really think it is so much of a clique thing as just a click thing - you know what I mean? Like, some people just relate to certain people more than others. Which is natural when you think about it. That's life. I sometimes feel bad when I don't respond to certain people much or ever, but my lack of response isn't because I don't like them or anything, just more that I don't know what to say or don't necessarily relate to the situation or don't understand the post. But really I just want everyone to feel comfortable and accepted here, myself included. I wouldn't want anyone to think that I don't like them because I didn't respond.
I don't know if people like me. I guess so. I don't feel that I am part of any clique here. I think that since I am sort of a "regular" and have been on for a while, maybe I feel a little more comfortable, and I've gotten used to the structure which maybe makes me feel better. But I do sometimes wonder if people even see me as a regular, remember me and my situations, etc. Maybe I'm not all that important. I wonder if I wasn't on for a little while, would anyone really notice? People have noticed recently the absence of Penny, whiterabbit, giget, and a few others. And I've noticed their absence too. But I wonder - would anyone care if I didn't show up? Does anyone notice or care if I am here? Do people like my responses and my posts? I really don't know. I guess I just hope that they do and that I add something to the board by being here. In any case, I do enjoy the board and reading and posting and responding, so I keep on coming, no matter what others think.
Okay, anyways... not to turn this into a pity party for myself! These are just my thoughts about this stuff. I hope I get some responses so I don't feel dumb!
Posted by kara lynne on July 30, 2003, at 14:01:43
In reply to about cliques, lack of responses, etc - everyone, posted by yesac on July 30, 2003, at 12:04:38
Hi yesac,
I'm not doing so well today, so forgive my brief response. I just wanted to let you know that awhile ago I noticed a thread you began that a lot of people responded to. It seemed like you struck a chord and that people cared deeply about you and what you were saying.I think Gabbi said a very wise thing----"this invisible clique that no one belongs to"...
although it may not feel that way sometimes. I do believe we all have our 'stuff' and sometimes it's right out of high school. But for the most part we are developing an invaluable cameraderie here--imperfect as it may be.
((((yesac))))
Posted by Kar on July 30, 2003, at 14:25:21
In reply to about cliques, lack of responses, etc - everyone, posted by yesac on July 30, 2003, at 12:04:38
Hey I'm Karen. I disappeared for a while so i don't really "know" you. Buuuut....i read your posts. See, I just seek people out. it's just as you said.
Sometimes you know that a certain poster tends to rub you the wrong way and you then avoid those posts. SOmething they write may infuriate you but you don't post and tell them that. Well i think it's like that with the positive feedback (or lack of, sometimes) too. I might read something and think, "EXACTLY!" and just not post. it hink there are tons of people "out there" who appreciate the support and humor that you offer. you just can't hear them!!i know exactly what you mean though. I'd post something and if it just sat there on it's little lonely island, I'd feel almost rejected.
>some people just relate to certain people more
WEll hot damn that's what I said above. You figured it out on your own.
> I don't know if people like me.
oh come on now...I won't even acknowledge that one! :D>a little while, would anyone really notice?
Funny, i used to think that too! Isn't it odd? It's a cyberworld and we still want to be accepted, liked and understood.
I think it's very much the nature of the board to ebb and flow re:reponses too. If I'm in a depressed pit, i read, but never respond.So are you "popular", a jock, a nerd or a rebel?
Artsy? Sullen? Ahhhhh high school.
Not.
Posted by yesac on July 30, 2003, at 15:32:36
In reply to Rejection!!! » yesac, posted by Kar on July 30, 2003, at 14:25:21
> Hey I'm Karen. I disappeared for a while so i don't really "know" you. Buuuut....i read your posts. See, I just seek people out. it's just as you said.
Yeah, I was sort of wondering where you came from, because your name is new to me, but people seem to know you.
> Sometimes you know that a certain poster tends to rub you the wrong way and you then avoid those posts. SOmething they write may infuriate you but you don't post and tell them that.
I can't really say that I've ever been infuriated by a post... but there are a lot of posts that I just plain don't get! A lot of the poetry, probably all of it actually, I just don't respond to because I've never been one to enjoy poetry or understand it very well... or write it, unless I had to!
it hink there are tons of people "out there" who appreciate the support and humor that you offer. you just can't hear them!!
Thanks. I'm not always upbeat, though! I go up and down, in life as well as my posts...
> >some people just relate to certain people more
> WEll hot damn that's what I said above. You figured it out on your own.Sorry didn't mean to copy/repeat you!
>
> >a little while, would anyone really notice?
> Funny, i used to think that too! Isn't it odd? It's a cyberworld and we still want to be accepted, liked and understood.It is a bit odd, but I think it makes sense especially here, because we tend to be so open and pouring out our hearts, so "rejection" here is quite upsetting.
> So are you "popular", a jock, a nerd or a rebel?
> Artsy? Sullen? Ahhhhh high school.Oh, dear me! You know, I just had a dream about high school last night. I have a lot of dreams about high school that tend to be disturbing, even though I didn't particularly dislike it or feel tormented or anything like that. But I guess I must have some unresolved issues or something, if you want to try to read into dreams, which I generally don't because I don't really believe in that. But anyways, I guess out of the above options, I was closest to a nerd. But not nerdy exactly, just one of the "smart kids". I wasn't popular, but I wasn't unpopular. I associated with some of the popular kids because I played sports with them, even though I was generally really quiet on the teams. Mainly, I think I was just a quiet person who noticed everyone but I'm not so sure that people really noticed me or thought anything of me at all.
Posted by yesac on July 30, 2003, at 15:56:41
In reply to Re: about cliques, lack of responses, etc - everyo, posted by kara lynne on July 30, 2003, at 14:01:43
> I'm not doing so well today, so forgive my brief response. I just wanted to let you know that awhile ago I noticed a thread you began that a lot of people responded to. It seemed like you struck a chord and that people cared deeply about you and what you were saying.
It's okay. Why are you not doing so well? I mean, not that there really has to be a "why". I know we all hate the "why are you depressed?" questions, so I don't mean to do that. Just trying to understand you a bit more because I don't feel like we've conversed much, you and me. I do really like it when I start a thread that many people respond to. Even if it's not specifically about ME, but ends up morphing and turning into a general discussion about whatever.
> I think Gabbi said a very wise thing----"this invisible clique that no one belongs to"...
Yes, it is wise. I think that people who are new here can feel like everyone knows each other and it's all so cliquey, but really I think it's more a matter of time and if you are here enough and post enough, whether it's responses to others, or starting your own threads, eventually the person will feel more comfortable and less of an outsider. It's like in life. I think that all of us experience times when many people respond, and times when not so many people respond. So hopefully the general feeling will come to be that at least sometimes you are interesting and funny and people care about you and what you say. And if they care sometimes, they probably care all of the time, but just don't always respond. (And I don't mean specifically YOU when I say "you", I just mean me, you, and everyone here!)
>
> although it may not feel that way sometimes. I do believe we all have our 'stuff' and sometimes it's right out of high school. But for the most part we are developing an invaluable cameraderie here--imperfect as it may be.Right out of high school or even earlier. It's probably Freudian-ish, as much as one can take from Freud. It's just the demons that we all have in our heads and our personal soft spots, transference, and all the rest. Hmmm... that's interesting about the camaraderie. I've never really thought of it that way, but you are right. I think that we all mean something to each other, and at least at this point in our lives, the board is important to us. I have dreams sometimes involving the board, and that tells me something. And I think about it and the people here a lot. AND... here goes my fate thing.... we were all "brought together" at this time in each of our lives. And we share this time together, be it through cyberspace, but that doesn't matter. Okay... that's enough about that... don't want to get carried away. I don't know how much I believe in fate, or in self-determination, and other such things, but I like to think about them now and then.
I hope you feel better soon!
Posted by Kar on July 30, 2003, at 16:17:03
In reply to Re: Rejection!!! » Kar, posted by yesac on July 30, 2003, at 15:32:36
I wonder what the cliques are in high school these days. Must be some new ones...anyone out there have kids in high school? Goth is the only one I can think of that we didn't have...there have to be tons of new ones.
I'm suddening feeling ancient.>A lot of the poetry,
It's interesting- that's a fairly recent development on the board. if you look back in the archives you can even see it beginning and someone posted something about it becoming a "poetry board". I guess for some people it's easiest to express themselves through it. And of course there's that artistic/creative bipolar association so it was probably inevitable...>I go up and down, in life as well as my posts...
Ah yes, welcome to the club (or should I say "clique"...!Sigh.
> Sorry didn't mean to copy/repeat you!
Silly- I misread and repeated YOU!Ok the bell's ringing...history class is over. Yay!
Posted by kara lynne on July 30, 2003, at 19:56:39
In reply to i was a punk » yesac, posted by Kar on July 30, 2003, at 16:17:03
I hope my making fun of my own was evident..if not now I'm *really* embarrassed.
Posted by Hoping on July 31, 2003, at 8:24:04
In reply to Poetry, posted by kara lynne on July 30, 2003, at 19:56:39
Your sense of humor has been evident to me from the start. Thanks to everybody for sharing your thoughts and words and everything about this board.
K
Posted by yesac on July 31, 2003, at 11:37:45
In reply to Re: Poetry, posted by Hoping on July 31, 2003, at 8:24:04
I also want to just say about the lack of response thing - I guess I feel especially hurt when I post some long thing that I feel like I put a lot of thought in to, and then there are only one or two responses. Gee whiz (I would use another phrase perhaps, but it might be offensive to some!)... that situation really sucks.
Posted by justyourlaugh on July 31, 2003, at 13:29:06
In reply to Rejection - another thing, posted by yesac on July 31, 2003, at 11:37:45
yes,,for many years i found it impossible to read anything"long"
i am getting better though and will make a point of responding and reading your thoughts...even if i step on your toes a bit...:)
j
Posted by yesac on July 31, 2003, at 13:53:04
In reply to Re: Rejection - another thing » yesac, posted by justyourlaugh on July 31, 2003, at 13:29:06
I have trouble with the long ones, too, unless of course I wrote them!
Posted by KimberlyDi on July 31, 2003, at 17:48:06
In reply to i was a punk » yesac, posted by Kar on July 30, 2003, at 16:17:03
One clique that I never noticed before, now that my son is going to my old highschool, is the Christian Clique. Strong Anti-Drug/Cigarettes/Alcohol and all for Jesus. I fell into the "wallflower" group. quiet, studious & shy.
> I wonder what the cliques are in high school these days. Must be some new ones...anyone out there have kids in high school? Goth is the only one I can think of that we didn't have...there have to be tons of new ones.
> I'm suddening feeling ancient.
>
> >A lot of the poetry,
> It's interesting- that's a fairly recent development on the board. if you look back in the archives you can even see it beginning and someone posted something about it becoming a "poetry board". I guess for some people it's easiest to express themselves through it. And of course there's that artistic/creative bipolar association so it was probably inevitable...
>
> >I go up and down, in life as well as my posts...
> Ah yes, welcome to the club (or should I say "clique"...!
>
> Sigh.
>
> > Sorry didn't mean to copy/repeat you!
> Silly- I misread and repeated YOU!
>
> Ok the bell's ringing...history class is over. Yay!
>
>
Posted by Ame Sans Vie on July 31, 2003, at 20:17:54
In reply to Re: i was a punk » Kar, posted by KimberlyDi on July 31, 2003, at 17:48:06
Having been to high school within the last six years, I suppose I feel qualified to answer this question. :-)
At my high school, the cliques were:
1.) The thugs
2.) The thugs' hoes
3.) The nerds
4.) The jocks
5.) The cheerleaders
6.) The goths
7.) The punks
8.) The rockers
9.) The stoners
10.) The hicks
11.) The A/V geeks
12.) The slackersProbably more, but that's all I can think of at the moment.
Posted by Ame Sans Vie on July 31, 2003, at 20:18:52
In reply to Re: Cliques today, posted by Ame Sans Vie on July 31, 2003, at 20:17:54
Posted by fallsfall on July 31, 2003, at 22:11:23
In reply to Re: Cliques today, posted by Ame Sans Vie on July 31, 2003, at 20:17:54
What are "thugs' hoes"?
Gee. My group was Band/Chorus. I don't think we had a name.
Posted by Kar on July 31, 2003, at 22:33:51
In reply to Oh, just an FYI, I was a goth, lol (nm), posted by Ame Sans Vie on July 31, 2003, at 20:18:52
Goths and punks.
Wassa A/V?
And...man you're young and i feel old.
No no, I'm ok. No sense in fretting.
Hey- thanks for the update...
K
Posted by yesac on August 1, 2003, at 11:37:01
In reply to Re: Cliques today » Ame Sans Vie, posted by fallsfall on July 31, 2003, at 22:11:23
> Gee. My group was Band/Chorus. I don't think we had a name.
Did that go along with the drama group? At my high school there was a definite drama crowd, who were often part of band and chorus as well.
Posted by yesac on August 1, 2003, at 11:45:33
In reply to Re: Cliques today » fallsfall, posted by yesac on August 1, 2003, at 11:37:01
I think that there was/is some definite overlap in the cliques, and that people could sort of fit into more than one. Or not exactly fit. I wouldn't exactly say that I fit well into any particular clique. It was more of a "type" I'd say. But like, for example, some of the drama people might also be nerdy. Some of the jocks (actually most of them I would say) were not only "smart kids" but also popular (I guess these were the people who had it all!)
Me - I was mainly a wallflower, as KimberlyDi put it, but I was a smart kid too and a jock - okay, okay, not a jock but I did play sports.
Posted by yesac on August 1, 2003, at 11:50:44
In reply to Re: i was a punk » Kar, posted by KimberlyDi on July 31, 2003, at 17:48:06
Posted by justyourlaugh on August 1, 2003, at 12:03:31
In reply to Re: Cliques today » fallsfall, posted by yesac on August 1, 2003, at 11:37:01
my brother was a drug dealer at the rival high school...so i was branded...
i had lots of dates but few boy friends because i wouldnt sleep around...
i fit into the "tease" group,who was punk one day,
brainer, phycho, metal head, loner, new wave, band sweater, lumberjack..why didnt those plaid coats catch on?, slut(rumours)...butch(only one fight)stoner(just a little manic at times)bitch(didnt play the "in crowd" games..)
..
i guess i was one who could be easly forgotton...or did some unforgettable things...
..
j
Posted by Ame Sans Vie on August 3, 2003, at 17:15:38
In reply to Re: Cliques today » Ame Sans Vie, posted by fallsfall on July 31, 2003, at 22:11:23
> What are "thugs' hoes"?
Pretty much exactly what it says, lol. The thugs had their "groupies", if you want to call them that. Just one of the many benefits that went along with being in a violent criminal gang, lol.
> Gee. My group was Band/Chorus. I don't think we had a name.
Posted by Ame Sans Vie on August 3, 2003, at 17:22:47
In reply to What's the difference between » Ame Sans Vie, posted by Kar on July 31, 2003, at 22:33:51
> Goths and punks.
Punks: Generally prefer punk music; clothing is haphazard; drugs of choice often include pot and mushrooms.
Goths: Generally prefer classical, opera, classic rock, death rock, metal, and goth rock music; clothing is very planned-out, mostly shades of black, red, and violet, even the guys tend to enjoy make-up; deeply philosophical; feel that the meaning of life lies in the arts and anything aesthetically-pleasing; drugs of choice often include absinthe and (quite often legitimately prescribed) prescription medications.
> Wassa A/V?
Audio/Visual... the kids who were into the whole school news broadcasting thing and all that.
> And...man you're young and i feel old.
> No no, I'm ok. No sense in fretting.
> Hey- thanks for the update...
> KNo prob. :-)
Posted by fallsfall on August 4, 2003, at 21:32:17
In reply to Re: Cliques today » fallsfall, posted by yesac on August 1, 2003, at 11:37:01
No, Band/Chorus were different from Drama, though we did have a musical each year - that cast came from the Chorus group. The Band was a complete social system in itself. We played for the football games, had parties and a band exchange with another town/state. 'Twas fun.
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