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Posted by kazoo on May 4, 2002, at 15:34:03
Pals'O'Mine:
I need some help PRONTO.
I need to be directed to sites providing information re. the ideas/theories behind a congenital link with Schizophrenia.
In other words, is there one or not?
I've done a few searches, but, of course, I'm relying on the pure, unadulterated genius in this group for help in locating any information, good or bad, positive or negative ... anything you can give to me.So, sock it to me ... and a very special MEOW to all.
kazoo
Posted by Willow on May 4, 2002, at 16:25:22
In reply to RFI: 'Congenital link with Schizophrenia' HELP!, posted by kazoo on May 4, 2002, at 15:34:03
Kazoo
With me you never get something for nothing. So in trade for this information I want to know what does RFI stand for? And why your sudden interest in schizophrenia? (If you're planning on raising a family with me, that's out I've given up on birthing. Sorry! But we could always adopt!! But we could always try to make it happen?)
If you're more specific, I can probably answer your question by giving you a percentage or directing you to an article on the web that could give you the type of information you want. But then that requires you to answer ME! hee hee
Willo'thewisp
Posted by susan C on May 4, 2002, at 18:32:51
In reply to RFI: 'Congenital link with Schizophrenia' HELP!, posted by kazoo on May 4, 2002, at 15:34:03
Ya mean, Genetic?
RFI, request for information
Willow will be an expert, and probably have specifics, but I am good for the following:Studies of twins, icelandic decendants (small gene pool, (not olympic sized) show genetic connection with schizophrenia. Bipolar, mood disorder in general can be genetically based as well. Is is one of the questions asked when being evaluated, no? As in, is your father, mother, brother, uncle, aunt, grandfather, grandmother, is there any family history...
mouse with a family history
Posted by kazoo on May 5, 2002, at 0:41:40
In reply to Re: RFI: 'Congenital link with Schizophrenia' HELP!, posted by Willow on May 4, 2002, at 16:25:22
> Kazoo
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> With me you never get something for nothing. So in trade for this information I want to know what does RFI stand for? And why your sudden interest in schizophrenia?Dear Madam:
I would first like to point out that the proper way to say "something for something" is "Quid Pro Quo" but in the case of "something for nothing," I haven't the foggiest notion.
By the same token, this is true as well "Qui nescit MAMBO nescit vivere" meaning "He who doesn't know how to MAMBO doesn't know how to live." May I have the next dance, my dear?
My sudden interest in the subject is "unlisted, unpublished" according to Neptunian Telephone Information.
Actually, I always was sort of interested in genetic links for any disease.
"RFI" is the ancient way of saying "Request For Information." This was used way back, way way back, when networks were just that and not this silly fluff you see today.
Did I answer the questions to your satisfaction, my dear?
kazoo
Posted by Willow on May 5, 2002, at 12:43:02
In reply to Re: RFI: 'Congenital link with Schizophrenia' HELP! » Willow, posted by kazoo on May 5, 2002, at 0:41:40
F.Y.I. Old Fart
The polite, sauve french-canadians call me mademoiselle. Pardon my spelling if incorrect!
>"Quid Pro Quo" May I have the next dance, my dear?
Since you give so little in return, you may watch me dance, or better yet I'll watch you dance after playing a game of poker.
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> My sudden interest in the subject is "unlisted, unpublished" according to Neptunian Telephone Information.
Your noted absence from the planet makes you unqualified for the protection of Neptunian Laws.
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> Actually, I always was sort of interested in genetic links for any disease.
Okay, I've been on a diagnosis bender. This little fact gives you the label of a hypochondriac.
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> Did I answer the questions to your satisfaction, my dear?
No, I can't say that you've yet been able to satisfy me. You have a knack for leaving me hanging. (And they say women are teases!)My reason for being nosey was that the answer you are looking for depends on the age, sex, racial background, etc. There are definite external things that will cause the illness to trigger: wacky tabbacy (innocent thing in itself unless you have a predisposition for this illness,) stress, AD's, etc. There's also a timeline that the illness likes to use, but it's never perfect. For instance men usually show signs in their later teens, but my family it rears up in the thirties. If you are concerned about someone odds are in favour of them having an illness such as bi-polar, which during it's manic phase can mimic schizophrenia. Also, severe depressive states and other illnesses plus side effects of drugs can do the same thing.
So if you are looking for a specific answer, you need to be more forth coming with your info. If the concern is for yourself, pardon the expression, but you are well past the age for this illness, dementia from such illnesses as alzeheimers is a better bet if you are a betting man.
Well the sun is shining here, and I need to go walk my pre-teen and her friend, plus my other rugrats. Paranoia is a symptom of the illness. Over come your fears, and join me in chat.
Wailing Willow
Posted by medlib on May 5, 2002, at 21:47:09
In reply to RFI: 'Congenital link with Schizophrenia' HELP!, posted by kazoo on May 4, 2002, at 15:34:03
Hi Kazoo--
In my book, surviving is a pretty impressive life achievement; and it sounds like you've managed to survive a really rotten recent past (in spite of all odds and all others)! By now, your health probably needs a major transfusion; hope you are able to get out of the line of fire and heal.
Here's what I've found re your RFI:
This is an overwhelmingly huge topic; beaucoup genetic research is going on. For the latest word on current research (on any topic), I follow the funding. The 2 biggies in this area are the NIMH and NARSAD. I don't know your level of comfort with medicalese or how much time you (or whoever) wants to spend on this topic. It doesn't come prepackaged for easy digestion because there are no definitive answers yet.NIMH's Genetic Initiative. These are the people with the big bucks. Check out description SZ database and Pubs.
http://www-grb.nimh.nih.gov/gi.htmlNARSAD funded ongoing research on schizophrenia
http://www.mhsource.com/narsad/bd/bdindex.htmlNARSAD publications--check out Spring and Summer 2001. Profiles on Weinberger and Gershon were interesting. (discusses their research)
http://www.mhsource.com/narsad/pub/nlindex.htmlThe official APA overview of SZ (consumer language)--some info re genetics near end of statement.
http://www.psych.org/public_info/schizo.cfmAn individual's 1997 (non-profit) site listed on several SZ links lists--quite comprehensive list of resources, some (but not all) links have updated info
http://www.schizophrenia.com/research/research.htmlFinally, of course there's PubMed (Medline). A quick search of the last 2 years on this topic returned 402 hits. I scanned the first 100 and found 6-7 worth checking out. None are free full text online, though. Don't know whether you're up to hiking to UConn's med library for access. If you're interested, I can tell you exactly how to replicate my search and how to pick out the goodies.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi
I also can provide a brief synopsis (couple of paragraphs) of my take on the info I scanned, if you want.
Happy Hunting---medlib
Posted by kazoo on May 6, 2002, at 1:21:06
In reply to Re: RFI » kazoo, posted by medlib on May 5, 2002, at 21:47:09
Posted by Willow on May 6, 2002, at 8:32:42
In reply to Re: RFI Thank you for the references. (nm) » medlib, posted by kazoo on May 6, 2002, at 1:21:06
Basic Facts about Schizophrenia
http://www.mentalhealth.com/book/p40-sc02.html#Head_3
Different choices (articles) by Schizophrenia.com
http://www.schizophrenia.com/newsletter/buckets/hypo.html
A link about MDD and visual hallucinations
http://www.mhsource.com/expert/exp1081699d.html
Here's a new web site that has daily news articles posted. You need to register, but it is free.
http://www.psychiatrymatters.md/From the above site I've learnt that they are coming up with physcial tests, such as a skin test. I showed it to my father, who still thinks of his illness as just "being crazy." Slowly I think I'm winning the battle convincing him that it is an illness like any other.
Hopefully your interest is just curiosity. This illness is a real thief like many chronic serious disorders.
Whispering Willow
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