![[dr. bob]](/dr-bob-sm.gif)
Dr. Bob is Robert Hsiung, MD,
bob@dr-bob.orgShown: posts 24 to 48 of 48. Go back in thread:
Posted by Mair on December 2, 2001, at 13:53:48
In reply to Re: Wendy where are you? :) - therapist's words, posted by sar on December 2, 2001, at 10:47:12
> Sar - what is "bibliotherapy?" Is this reading self-help books or what? It's a new word to me.
Mair
PS I've always loved the word "intellectualize," although I do have to admit I've found it's a more useful word in a therapeutic milieu than otherwise.
Posted by sar on December 2, 2001, at 16:03:48
In reply to Re: Wendy where are you? :) - therapist's words » sar, posted by Mair on December 2, 2001, at 13:53:48
> > Sar - what is "bibliotherapy?" Is this reading self-help books or what? It's a new word to me.
>
> Mair
>
> PS I've always loved the word "intellectualize," although I do have to admit I've found it's a more useful word in a therapeutic milieu than otherwise.Mair,
i had a really corny therapist doing her internship at a free clinic and when i told her i liked to read about psychology, she said, "Oh! Bibliotherapy!"
then i had a really smart but somewhat harsh pscyoanalyst who accused me of intellectualizing everything. she said that i have a "rational ego"...she thought that i didn't talk about my feelings enough, or that when i did, i "intellectualized" them. (admittedly, i do...but that's just my style. if i didn't put some sort of rational bandage on them, they'd bleed all over the place.)
Posted by shelliR on December 2, 2001, at 16:12:54
In reply to Re: Wendy where are you? :) - therapist's words » Mair, posted by sar on December 2, 2001, at 16:03:48
boundaries.
That's my good friend's favorite. He's always saying, "Now what's that word your therapist uses all the time about needing space?
Oh yea, boundaries.shelli
Posted by kiddo on December 2, 2001, at 19:32:28
In reply to therapist's words, posted by shelliR on December 2, 2001, at 16:12:54
"Closure"
ARGHHHH.... I hate that word. I also told my pdoc that if he ever used it, I'd get up and leave. I think that word (other than love) is one of the most overused words in the dictionary-I'd like to pop the chops of the first person responsibile for using it in a therapeutic sense.
> boundaries.
>
> That's my good friend's favorite. He's always saying, "Now what's that word your therapist uses all the time about needing space?
> Oh yea, boundaries.
>
> shelli
Posted by mair on December 3, 2001, at 8:22:27
In reply to Re: therapist's words, posted by kiddo on December 2, 2001, at 19:32:28
> "Place" to mean how you're feeling/what you're thinking about, not physical location.
Mair
Posted by sar on December 3, 2001, at 14:18:31
In reply to Re: therapist's words, posted by mair on December 3, 2001, at 8:22:27
"so what you're saying is..."
Posted by kiddo on December 3, 2001, at 14:44:40
In reply to Re: therapist's words, posted by sar on December 3, 2001, at 14:18:31
Oh really.... statement not a question....
Posted by Mair on December 3, 2001, at 20:18:46
In reply to Re: therapist's words, posted by kiddo on December 3, 2001, at 14:44:40
> "are you at risk?"
Mair
Posted by shelliR on December 3, 2001, at 20:31:19
In reply to Re: therapist's words, posted by Mair on December 3, 2001, at 20:18:46
> > "are you at risk?"
>
> Mairvariation: "are you safe"
"do you need to go into the hospital?"shelli
Posted by Roo on December 4, 2001, at 8:25:20
In reply to Re: therapist's words, posted by shelliR on December 3, 2001, at 20:31:19
patient: "I can't help it, I want you to like me"
therapist: "And what would it mean if I liked you...?
Posted by mair on December 4, 2001, at 12:06:23
In reply to Re: therapist's words, posted by Roo on December 4, 2001, at 8:25:20
> "decompensating"
Mair
Posted by sar on December 4, 2001, at 14:04:48
In reply to Re: therapist's words, posted by mair on December 4, 2001, at 12:06:23
"ideation"
Posted by wendy b. on December 4, 2001, at 22:12:36
In reply to Re: therapist's words, posted by sar on December 4, 2001, at 14:04:48
> "ideation"
Like, totally, man...
I know, I know, closure, boundaries, "place," are you at risk (although I've never been asked the last one, lucky me...)
On the other hand, and here I go intellectualizing again (!), they ARE only just words. And we have to use words to understand each other. And if we balk at a certain one (empathic really gets me, though), maybe it means it's an issue (arrrggghhhhh) we're having trouble with. Like empathy, or the grieving we feel when someone dies, or the ability or inability to let others know there's a line they can't cross... It's all just shorthand.
My 2 cents. After all, I haven't been here in a few days, the sub teaching has been good lately.
More later, love to all,
Wendy
Posted by mair on December 5, 2001, at 7:53:34
In reply to Re: therapist's words, posted by wendy b. on December 4, 2001, at 22:12:36
> Wendy - I don't mean to suggest that they aren't good words, just words and phrases not readily used in other contexts. I used to have a pdoc who talked about "empathic failures." What do you understand the difference to be between "empathic" and "empathetic?" I never could figure it out and was too intimidated at that stage to ask. Of course this is the same guy who also unfortunately felt he had to ask me on a couple of occasions if I was "at risk." Regardless of the awful shape I was in when that question was asked, it still used to rankle me. In my view "at risk" had some particular meaning known only to him and it seemed that he was asking me to draw a conclusion I was not qualified (training-wise) to draw. I'm sure this was nitpicking, but it was a phrase that always made me want to nitpick.
Mair
Posted by shelliR on December 5, 2001, at 13:40:50
In reply to Re: therapist's words, posted by wendy b. on December 4, 2001, at 22:12:36
> > "ideation"
>
> Like, totally, man...
>
> I know, I know, closure, boundaries, "place," are you at risk (although I've never been asked the last one, lucky me...)
>
> On the other hand, and here I go intellectualizing again (!), they ARE only just words. And we have to use words to understand each other. And if we balk at a certain one (empathic really gets me, though), maybe it means it's an issue (arrrggghhhhh) we're having trouble with. Like empathy, or the grieving we feel when someone dies, or the ability or inability to let others know there's a line they can't cross... It's all just shorthand.
>
> My 2 cents. After all, I haven't been here in a few days, the sub teaching has been good lately.
>
> More later, love to all,
>
> Wendy
Hi Wendy,
I thought this was just a light-hearted, fun thread to gather words or phrases that connect to us as "therapist" phrases.
I agree with Mair; it's not a critical thread. It's interesting how common language develops in a profession. So much so that we are able to relate to it as belonging to that profession, without it being an "official", declared language. We could probably do the same for medical, and dozens of other fields, but that's not what brings us together here.My guess is that my therapist and probably the majority of therapists would be amused by this thread.
Oh well, too late. I can't believe we're discussing this instead of piling more on. I think the momentum is broken.
Shelli
Posted by Pamela Lynn on December 5, 2001, at 14:10:28
In reply to therapist's words, posted by shelliR on December 2, 2001, at 16:12:54
"Will you be 'safe' until we meet again??"
Errgggghhhh
> boundaries.
>
> That's my good friend's favorite. He's always saying, "Now what's that word your therapist uses all the time about needing space?
> Oh yea, boundaries.
>
> shelli
Posted by wendy b. on December 5, 2001, at 14:11:23
In reply to Re: therapist's words » wendy b., posted by shelliR on December 5, 2001, at 13:40:50
> Oh well, too late. I can't believe we're discussing this instead of piling more on. I think the momentum is broken.
>
> Shelli
Shelli,Can't the thread go somewhere that neither you nor I might have wanted or imagined? Kinda funny that you are getting sore at me... ? Take the thread where you want it to go, then...
W.
Posted by Pamela Lynn on December 5, 2001, at 14:11:46
In reply to therapist's words, posted by shelliR on December 2, 2001, at 16:12:54
Oh my gosh can't forget the "welllll, our time is just about over now"...and that is usually in the middle of me talking!! LOL
P.L.
> boundaries.
>
> That's my good friend's favorite. He's always saying, "Now what's that word your therapist uses all the time about needing space?
> Oh yea, boundaries.
>
> shelli
Posted by sar on December 5, 2001, at 14:29:26
In reply to Re: therapist's words » shelliR, posted by Pamela Lynn on December 5, 2001, at 14:10:28
> "Will you be 'safe' until we meet again??"
>
> Errgggghhhh
aaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh!!!!!! Pamela Lynn wins Round One.i'm allowed to declare this because i have a cold today.
Posted by Pamela Lynn on December 5, 2001, at 14:41:08
In reply to Re: therapist's words, posted by sar on December 5, 2001, at 14:29:26
LMAO!!!!!
> > "Will you be 'safe' until we meet again??"
> >
> > Errgggghhhh
>
> aaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh!!!!!! Pamela Lynn wins Round One.
>
> i'm allowed to declare this because i have a cold today.
Posted by mair on December 5, 2001, at 15:40:48
In reply to Re: therapist's words » sar, posted by Pamela Lynn on December 5, 2001, at 14:41:08
> LMAO!!!!!
>
I have no idea what this means. How about all the verbal contracts? "Will you promise me that you'll show up for the next appointment." or "will you agree that you'll call me if you think you're going to harm yourself."Mair
Posted by sar on December 5, 2001, at 16:09:01
In reply to Re: therapist's words » Pamela Lynn, posted by mair on December 5, 2001, at 15:40:48
> > LMAO!!!!!
> >
> I have no idea what this means. How about all the verbal contracts? "Will you promise me that you'll show up for the next appointment." or "will you agree that you'll call me if you think you're going to harm yourself."
>
> Mair
Mair,what about, "Will you sign this contract stating that you will not hurt or kill yourself."
Posted by paula on December 5, 2001, at 23:34:44
In reply to Re: therapist's words » mair, posted by sar on December 5, 2001, at 16:09:01
> > > LMAO!!!!!
> > >
> > I have no idea what this means. How about all the verbal contracts? "Will you promise me that you'll show up for the next appointment." or "will you agree that you'll call me if you think you're going to harm yourself."
> >
> > Mair
>
>
> Mair,
>
> what about, "Will you sign this contract stating that you will not hurt or kill yourself."Sar, has a therapist actually said this? I can see a verbal agreement but in writing?! Sheesh!
BTW, I'm still curious about "ideation"--any ideas? (Did you see my post below? It's highly tangential, so I started anew.)
Also BTW, I'm in the dark about LMAO, too. Over three letters and I get lost in the acronyms, By The Way.... :) --p
Posted by Pamela Lynn on December 6, 2001, at 7:38:15
In reply to Re: therapist's words » sar, posted by paula on December 5, 2001, at 23:34:44
LMAO means "Laughing My Ass Off!!!"
There ya go.
P.L.
> > > > LMAO!!!!!
> > > >
> > > I have no idea what this means. How about all the verbal contracts? "Will you promise me that you'll show up for the next appointment." or "will you agree that you'll call me if you think you're going to harm yourself."
> > >
> > > Mair
> >
> >
> > Mair,
> >
> > what about, "Will you sign this contract stating that you will not hurt or kill yourself."
>
> Sar, has a therapist actually said this? I can see a verbal agreement but in writing?! Sheesh!
>
> BTW, I'm still curious about "ideation"--any ideas? (Did you see my post below? It's highly tangential, so I started anew.)
>
> Also BTW, I'm in the dark about LMAO, too. Over three letters and I get lost in the acronyms, By The Way.... :) --p
Posted by sar on December 6, 2001, at 9:43:43
In reply to Re: therapist's words » sar, posted by paula on December 5, 2001, at 23:34:44
> >
> >
> > Mair,
> >
> > what about, "Will you sign this contract stating that you will not hurt or kill yourself."
>
> Sar, has a therapist actually said this? I can see a verbal agreement but in writing?! Sheesh!
>
> BTW, I'm still curious about "ideation"--any ideas? (Did you see my post below? It's highly tangential, so I started anew.)
>
> Also BTW, I'm in the dark about LMAO, too. Over three letters and I get lost in the acronyms, By The Way.... :) --pPaula,
yes, i've had to sign a few of those forms to either get treatment at no charge or to be released from a hospital.
(ridiculous!)
i saw your ideation post and meand to find a dictionary to look it up, but i am stranded couch-surfing at the home of folks who don't own a dictionary. i imagine that it could be used in other contexts, but i've only heard it in one.
Pamela Lynn was right--LMAO means Laughing My Ass Off...
This is the end of the thread.
Psycho-Babble Social | Extras | FAQ
Dr. Bob is Robert Hsiung, MD,
bob@dr-bob.org
Script revised: February 4, 2008
URL: http://www.dr-bob.org/cgi-bin/pb/mget.pl
Copyright 2006-17 Robert Hsiung.
Owned and operated by Dr. Bob LLC and not the University of Chicago.