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Posted by sigismund on July 31, 2020, at 23:47:23
Lizard People? Enlightened government?
Someone will know the details.
Posted by sigismund on August 1, 2020, at 0:16:28
In reply to Demon Seed and Alien DNA, posted by sigismund on July 31, 2020, at 23:47:23
Know the song? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5IUq-XBTI8
Kings? Not so much. We can always praise ourselves until we leave this place; no one else will, especially later.
The aide said that guys like me were 'in what we call the reality-based community,' which he defined as people who 'believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality.' [...] 'That's not the way the world really works anymore,' he continued. 'We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that realityjudiciously, as you willwe'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors...and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do'.
Posted by beckett2 on August 1, 2020, at 2:23:21
In reply to 'Look how great we have become.', posted by sigismund on August 1, 2020, at 0:16:28
The video is blocked in my country.
Who are you quoting?
According to the new COVID team doctor, manny illnesses are caused by demons having sex with a person while they're asleep. Garlic? Crucifixes? Holy water?
Have you seen Sarah Cooper? Let's see....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YtxfJyTSR0
She uses a hair dryer for the helicopter effect.
Posted by beckett2 on August 1, 2020, at 2:31:42
In reply to 'Look how great we have become.', posted by sigismund on August 1, 2020, at 0:16:28
I found it. Really well done. Is it filmed in Australia? (America fancies itself a king. That's why so many are in the streets.)
> Know the song? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5IUq-XBTI8
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> Kings? Not so much. We can always praise ourselves until we leave this place; no one else will, especially later.
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> The aide said that guys like me were 'in what we call the reality-based community,' which he defined as people who 'believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality.' [...] 'That's not the way the world really works anymore,' he continued. 'We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that realityjudiciously, as you willwe'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors...and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do'.
Posted by alexandra_k on August 3, 2020, at 5:35:27
In reply to Re: 'Look how great we have become.', posted by beckett2 on August 1, 2020, at 2:31:42
'aliens' are illegal immigrants, i thought.
it would make sense to exploit that group of people when it comes to experimental subjects to test vaccinations on.
particularly when one of the serious problems with Covid is that it induces a cytokine storm or too strong of an immune response such that the person's immune system attacks the person.
you want to make sure that the vaccination doesn't produce that.
best test it on aliens?makes sense...
Posted by alexandra_k on August 3, 2020, at 5:37:00
In reply to Re: 'Look how great we have become.', posted by beckett2 on August 1, 2020, at 2:31:42
Posted by alexandra_k on August 3, 2020, at 5:44:47
In reply to Re: 'Look how great we have become.', posted by alexandra_k on August 3, 2020, at 5:37:00
he's a `legal alien' he reckons. to be fair, Trump said he didn't know which country she was from. the doctor who said about the vaccines being made from alien dna.
Posted by alexandra_k on August 3, 2020, at 6:16:10
In reply to Re: 'Look how great we have become.', posted by alexandra_k on August 3, 2020, at 5:44:47
https://science.sciencemag.org/content/272/5266/1262
bacterial DNA is 'alien'
Posted by sigismund on August 5, 2020, at 0:25:22
In reply to Re: 'Look how great we have become.', posted by beckett2 on August 1, 2020, at 2:31:42
I guess it's British. Banned on youtube? Are they from Bristol? So that is from a dozen years ago when they had car stickers saying 'I never thought I'd miss Nixon'. He seems like a Shakespearian villain these days, pretty good.
That video was very accomplished.
I've heard it my entire life, this unending litany of self-praise starting with 'we were better than the Spanish' and 'they didn't mix their labours with the land'.
Posted by sigismund on August 5, 2020, at 16:13:44
In reply to Re: 'Look how great we have become.', posted by alexandra_k on August 3, 2020, at 6:16:10
The upside to this is the conspiratorial Republicans may be trapped in a cul de sac of their own making. Where can they go from here, assuming they lose?
Really, when you think of all the things humans have believed.........
Posted by sigismund on August 5, 2020, at 16:26:35
In reply to Re: 'Look how great we have become.', posted by sigismund on August 5, 2020, at 16:13:44
About those Republicans: 'They're getting high off their own supply'. (David Dayan)
Posted by sigismund on August 5, 2020, at 16:28:30
In reply to Re: 'Look how great we have become.', posted by sigismund on August 5, 2020, at 16:26:35
Actually not David Dayan but Aaron Kleinman.
Posted by sigismund on August 6, 2020, at 2:36:50
In reply to Re: 'Look how great we have become.', posted by sigismund on August 5, 2020, at 16:28:30
This is available here, but I doubt you can see it. PORTLAND!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zthJUf31MA&feature=youtu.be
Posted by alexandra_k on August 6, 2020, at 10:21:01
In reply to Re: 'Look how great we have become.', posted by sigismund on August 6, 2020, at 2:36:50
I can see it. Sigh. They need a good war to believe in and a desert to play in. Sigh.
But yeah, I get the sentiment. People have been cooped up for too long. About the virus. It's frustrating. People are feeling cooped up and need to stretch their legs.
Too many people...
It's so sad that we can't look after all the people the way they each and every one of them deserves to be. To have been. The value of a life...
Posted by alexandra_k on August 6, 2020, at 10:29:27
In reply to Re: 'Look how great we have become.', posted by alexandra_k on August 6, 2020, at 10:21:01
I feel old watching that. I don't want to be an undergraduate anymore lolz.
Posted by sigismund on August 6, 2020, at 16:24:01
In reply to Re: 'Look how great we have become.', posted by alexandra_k on August 6, 2020, at 10:29:27
I'd never wanted to visit the USA except to see the country, but I would go to Portland on the strength of that.
Obviously rebellion. Civil war?
Posted by beckett2 on August 6, 2020, at 17:22:49
In reply to Re: 'Look how great we have become.', posted by sigismund on August 6, 2020, at 2:36:50
> This is available here, but I doubt you can see it. PORTLAND!
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> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zthJUf31MA&feature=youtu.beI really like the guy at 4:08.
The woman at 7:38.
On a new civil war, I found this a great listen https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-it-could-happen-here-30717896/
The Proud Boys can go to hell. Apparently Australia has some. Why can't all the authoritarian types leave everyone else alone? Haha I realize the absurdity of the previous sentence!
Posted by sigismund on August 6, 2020, at 22:11:22
In reply to Re: 'Look how great we have become.', posted by beckett2 on August 6, 2020, at 17:22:49
Some of those people I want to chat with.
But they do stay up late.
I can't remember when or exactly what.....something like 'why are you here?' The answer was tremendous, the answers were all good. Like 'I dunno' except it wasn't. 'Nothing better to do?' 'Couldn't sleep?' 'I want to burn it all down?' I can't remember, but to cultivate dissonance, Tucker Carlson on this is always on my mind.
This has been a long road.
Posted by alexandra_k on August 7, 2020, at 2:51:15
In reply to Re: 'Look how great we have become.', posted by sigismund on August 6, 2020, at 22:11:22
Yeah, the "I've got nothing better to do'' guy got to me, too. He wasn't happy about it.
The girl inspired me to say I didn't want to be an under-grad anymore. I mean she is passionate and articulate and there are many of them in under-graduate philosophy classes that I've taught over however many years and it's one thing working with them and helping them develop their idea...
And it's another thing, entirely, to see them packed into over-crowded tutorial 'discussion' groups where they are only allowed to repeat back what the lecturer wrote for them on the powerpoint slides... I don't want to be an under-graduate anymore.
Distance learning ftw.
Don't know why I thought Portland was in Ohio and Oregon was on the other coast. The things you learn.
Posted by alexandra_k on August 7, 2020, at 12:15:58
In reply to Re: 'Look how great we have become.', posted by alexandra_k on August 7, 2020, at 2:51:15
There could be another Portland, to be fair.
I feel that I did my time with the angst. Camus and the like. The search for meaning. For understanding.
I think about the television shows i watched as a pre-teen. They were pretty influential, I guess. With respect to exposing me to different things and me sort of figuring out what I was interested in / keen on.
I was pretty interested in psychological thriller kinds of things.
I guess from thinking about God and deciding I wanted to believe but not really beliving and then sort of realising I didn't believe really and then feeling guilty about that...
And, as part of that, sort of wanting to believe in other things, too. And as part of growing up sorting out what I believed about various things. Ghosts. Spirits. Supernatural things. I spent more than a few nights in earnest trying to condense the air into something more substantial and trying to levitate. Then hypnotism... Thinking about that...
Then thinking about the sorts of things that some people apparently got up to. Serial killers and the like. Thinking about that kind of compartmentalisation. And thinking about other kinds. And... Wanting to be better at it. I don't know that I ever was multiple personality. I think I wanted to be. Because it was supposed to be about pain reduction -- right? So I tried to get better at it for the right reasons... But I know that I ever convinced myself, really. I don't know. I wanted to believe. Not for the purposes of absolving myself of responsibility for my own crimes. But of feeling less pain when it came to things that genuinely were outside of my control. That didn't involve harms or hurts to others. Only to myself...
Though I would say things, I guess. So maybe not victimless. I mean posts on these boards. That was the worst acting out. In a safe environment. Where I couldn't really hurt anyone. Mostly. I guess.
And I feel I've sorted out my understand of most things to my own satisfaction. But I see that most others have not sorted out most of their things to their own satisfaction.
But they don't pay me.
And some things not even money can buy.
There was this talk that someone gave that was kind of interesting about epistemically responsible agents. Some people just form beliefs in ways that are epistemically responsible. Whereas other's don't. Some people seem to uncritically accept whatever they are exposed to. A dim sensory impression is formed. Others do more organising. I guess that's it. The time spent processing... Sleeping... Dozing... Just having a quiet little lie down... Stopping the input from outside so that things can go round and round...
Then yoru intuition gets tuned. So you can make quick judgements or find answers quickly in real-time.
I'm often surprised (genuinely -- not in a condescending way) at how little most people think. I mean... Engage in internal verbal dialogue with themselves. To talk things through. To figure things out. To make decisions. To develop understanding.
Not just to rationalise or justify snap judgements made in non-epistemically responsible ways.
Posted by alexandra_k on August 7, 2020, at 12:32:53
In reply to Re: 'Look how great we have become.', posted by alexandra_k on August 7, 2020, at 12:15:58
The sims is an interesting game.
I used to play it quite a lot.
Sometimes I got into the spirit of grubbing your way up the hierarchy. Doing what you needed to do to get promoted as quickly as possible to make as much money as possible as quickly as possible...
And there would be a really big bang for the buck on some of those items. A comfy bed that reduced the amount of time you needed to spend sleeping. A refrigerator that didn't give you a 'tastes like refrigerator' debuff and kept your food from spoiling for days...
But eventually your sim ages up and you go: What is life?
Or there's an event. A birthday, maybe. And you go: Who are my friends?
And at some point, later in your Sims like you go: What was it all for? All this money I have. And you realise that the real meaningful and memorable things about it were some of the simpler or smaller experiences along the way. The things you did that werent't contributing to your promotions.
The time 'wasters'.
That was the meaningful parts of the life.
The time 'wasters'.
The things that did not contribute to promotions and the like.
And then regrets that one didn't spend more time living.
And I think: Why didn't they see it coming?
And I suppose they go: Well, how many pleasant life experiences do you have when we have all the money and you don't have a comfortable home or your own transport or...
And actually even though you spent your life contributing to the Univeristy and education and knowldge...
We money grubbity grub grubbed the living sh*t out of it. And our people don't know sh*t about sh*t about sh*t about secure software systems or rockets to the moon or sanitation systems or water treatment or medications or and of the things... Any of the things... Any of the things...
Money grubbity grub grub grub.
Because someone signed them off.
Actually, it's about balance of power. About the sytems that are in place to ensure that people do the things they are supposed to do. People think they know better than the systems. And unfortunately, we often do have stuipid systems so sometimes that might be true.
That's the real thing. BEtter systems. Systems of accountability.
The US.. Showing the world the way...
Athletes speaking up about abuse in sport.
Bribery in University admissions.
NRA not doing any of the things it's supposed to do. Violatiing it's own regulations.Non-medical mask alternatives.
NZ has only just got on board with that (last in the world).
The science advisor is trying not to have a cow on camera at the thought of people wearing masks without his permission and particularly he's not happy about the thought of surgical masks being available to / worn by non-medial personel. You can see it in his face. He is NOT HAPPY about complying with best practice on the world stage. NOT HAPPY NOT HAPPY AT ALL.I feel like Dorothy from the Wizard of Oz. The wicked witches.
Don't they see their people are unhappy?
Don't they see their role in that?Oh yeah. They don't care.
Posted by sigismund on August 8, 2020, at 22:39:11
In reply to Re: 'Look how great we have become.', posted by alexandra_k on August 7, 2020, at 2:51:15
I receive lectures on PC things from one of my children, appropriation, intersectionality or something. Doesn't feel much different to 40 years ago on the self-righteous front. I feel like saying, "I read 5 thick feminist texts in 1972. Leave me alone".
This is the end of the thread.
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