Psycho-Babble Politics Thread 735630

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Understanding Mr Howard

Posted by Declan on February 24, 2007, at 2:49:50

The new leader of the opposition is Kevin Rudd.
He attacks John Howard from a socially conservative and humane position.
The PM's great talent has been to convincingly portray himself as being right in the mainstream.

And now it's coming unstuck.

From today's paper
(Rudd had said that he would enjoy messing with the PM's mind.)
"Informed by a media hack that Rudd had branded him a risk to Australia's national security, Howard reacted as if he had been poked with a very sharp stick. 'Really!" he snorted 'I think he's getting a bit full of himself'.

Michael Leunig, Australia's best political cartoonist had this in the cartoon immediately below.

"Kevin Rudd is full of himeself
A Kevin shaped bottle right there on the shelf.
Pull out the cork at a quarter to seven
And fill your glass with absolute Kevin.

John Winston Howard is full up as well
But what's in the bottle we really can't tell
Don't pull out the cork 'cause you wouldn't be able
You'll have to believe what it says on the label."


 

Re: Understanding Mr Howard » Declan

Posted by payday on March 1, 2007, at 14:53:03

In reply to Understanding Mr Howard, posted by Declan on February 24, 2007, at 2:49:50

Declan, to understand Prime Minister Howard it is imperative I feel to grasp the theories espoused by Col.Jack Ripper on the zapping or dilution of essential bodily fluids, as this underpins both his and President Bush's, Total Commitment policy. With respect to cartoonist Lunig analogy to ABSOLUTE Rudd I suspect that this fluid is questionable and may not be as pure as grain alcohol with distilled water.

 

Re: Understanding Mr Howard » payday

Posted by Declan on March 1, 2007, at 17:16:04

In reply to Re: Understanding Mr Howard » Declan, posted by payday on March 1, 2007, at 14:53:03

Welcome to Psychobabble (if I'm not mistaken).

Once Kevin Rudd would not have seemed so reassuring, but expectations have become quite altered over the last 10 years.
The fact that Rudd is in some ways more conservative than Howard can feel reassuring (why would that be?).

The whole business has been very disorienting and upsetting, and worse elsewhere.
I read that the death toll from the Iraq adventure is 600,000 (London Review of Books).
Can that be right?
Who knows?
Must try not to get upset.

 

Re: Understanding Mr Howard

Posted by caraher on March 2, 2007, at 7:07:45

In reply to Re: Understanding Mr Howard » payday, posted by Declan on March 1, 2007, at 17:16:04


> I read that the death toll from the Iraq adventure is 600,000 (London Review of Books).
> Can that be right?
> Who knows?
> Must try not to get upset.

I believe that figure is from a study published in Lancet. The US, doubtless out of concern for the delicate sensibilities of the Iraqi and American people, have not kept official track of Iraqi deaths, but in reaction to the study asserted the true figure is a tenth of that. Thank goodness for the sensitivity and civility of the Bush administration!

President Bush and PM Howard thank you for your emotional restraint. To become upset might lead to incivility, which might embolden the terrorists.

 

Emboldening terrorists

Posted by Declan on March 2, 2007, at 14:57:52

In reply to Re: Understanding Mr Howard, posted by caraher on March 2, 2007, at 7:07:45

If civil war breaks out between Sunni and Shia throughout the region, who knows what will happen?

Payday, I think I owe you a correction. I'm not sure how familiar you are with the details of New South Wales ALP politics, but I have just been reading in "Jonestown" about the Alan Jones/Michael Costa connection, and about how Jones's main enemies were Liberals, though of course by no means all, and his main appeasers the ALP.

Luckily I can vote Green and give my preferences to the Nationals.

 

Wrong link (nm)

Posted by Declan on March 2, 2007, at 14:58:46

In reply to Emboldening terrorists, posted by Declan on March 2, 2007, at 14:57:52

 

Re: Understanding Mr Howard » caraher

Posted by payday on March 3, 2007, at 16:59:59

In reply to Re: Understanding Mr Howard, posted by caraher on March 2, 2007, at 7:07:45

You are so right caraher with respect to incivility and embolding terrorists, one need look no further than captured Australian combatant David Hicks. Five years in a USA salubrious guantanamo bay health facility, two years of which were spent in blissfull isolation in a personal, quite suite and still he complains. I must add that the acumulated frequent flyer points accumulated by David and companions relocted, courtesy of Bush and Co. airlines are transferable, but thats only hearsay. Oh lets not forget the opportunities opening up in Iraq with so many vacancies in all walks of life made possible by the forces for demorcratic freedom. Vice-president Dick Cheney confirmed recently while touring Australia "he expects a major leap forward soon," and I bet anything Mao can do Dick can do better. Then, god willing he'll surpass Uncle Joe.

 

David Hicks » payday

Posted by Declan on March 3, 2007, at 21:50:27

In reply to Re: Understanding Mr Howard » caraher, posted by payday on March 3, 2007, at 16:59:59

That's right, Payday. David Hicks could have ended up in a jail in Uzbekistan, Syria or Egypt.
The beach just around from Guantanamo is one of the best in the world.

Anyway, we can be sure he'll be back in Australia in time for the federal election.
Philip Ruddock says he can see no problems at all.

 

Re: David Hicks » Declan

Posted by payday on March 4, 2007, at 13:35:49

In reply to David Hicks » payday, posted by Declan on March 3, 2007, at 21:50:27

It,s reassuring Declan, that both Australia and the US share such moral minded Attorney Generals in Ruddock and Gonzales. They appeal to that moral majority that understand, if US prosecutors are sacked, there must be a good reason.If hearsay evidence and torture are used, to gain convictions of alledged enemy combatants, then so be it.

Davids political used by date is up already. You would have to be a real Burke to fall for that.

 

Re: David Hicks » payday

Posted by Declan on March 4, 2007, at 13:43:32

In reply to Re: David Hicks » Declan, posted by payday on March 4, 2007, at 13:35:49

I'm sure those Attorneys-general will remain an inspiration to us all for years to come.

Who can remember one such as Philip Ruddock?
I bet they don't even have one like him in America....maybe in Roumania?

 

Re: David Hicks

Posted by Declan on March 4, 2007, at 13:46:04

In reply to Re: David Hicks » payday, posted by Declan on March 4, 2007, at 13:43:32

I apologise to any Roumanians who may feel put down by any implied connection between their country and Mr Ruddock.

 

Re: David Hicks

Posted by Declan on March 4, 2007, at 14:25:39

In reply to Re: David Hicks, posted by Declan on March 4, 2007, at 13:46:04

All of this will be lost on those not fortunate enough to have seen Mr Ruddock.

He is one of the few politicians who could come from Dickins or Shakespeare.

 

Re: please be civil » payday

Posted by Dr. Bob on March 25, 2007, at 7:39:59

In reply to Re: Understanding Mr Howard » Declan, posted by payday on March 1, 2007, at 14:53:03

> to understand Prime Minister Howard it is imperative I feel to grasp the theories espoused by Col.Jack Ripper on the zapping or dilution of essential bodily fluids

Please be sensitive to the feelings of others (such as supporters of Howard).

But please don't take this personally, this doesn't mean I don't like you or think you're a bad person.

If you or others have questions about this or about posting policies in general, or are interested in alternative ways of expressing yourself, please first see the FAQ:

http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#enforce

Follow-ups regarding these issues should be redirected to Psycho-Babble Administration. They, as well as replies to the above post, should of course themselves be civil.

Thanks,

Bob


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