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Posted by partlycloudy on June 13, 2005, at 16:26:32
Comments from the peanut gallery? I was surprised at the outcome.
Posted by happyflower on June 13, 2005, at 18:32:29
In reply to Michael Jackson acquitted, posted by partlycloudy on June 13, 2005, at 16:26:32
So cool, another board I didn't notice before! I might stay here! lol I love to debate! Heehee. As far as MJ goes, I think he is a big target for people because he acts and looks so weird and he (was) rich.
But I think people are forming their opinion on that one interview without actually seeing the whole thing. I sae the whole thing and afterwards the news were adding their own slant to it to make it look very negative.
The thing I am talking about is taking kids to bed. I don't believe he meant it in a sexual way. I believe they were just watching movies and having like a slumber party. But I wouldn't let my kids do that with a grown man anyways, but we let our kids come to our bed to snuggle and watch TV. I think MJ just needs to a little less nieve and not let it happen. I think he loves kids ( not sexually) and he wants to relive his childhood doing all the fun stuff he didn't get to do. I was going to accept whatever the verdict was, but if he was guilty, shouldn't he have been at least charged with something by now? I guess he only knows, but I wouldn't take the chance if I was a parent. I am leary of anyone who wants to be close to my kids.
Posted by Phillipa on June 13, 2005, at 18:59:57
In reply to Re: Michael Jackson acquitted, posted by happyflower on June 13, 2005, at 18:32:29
I think he did it. It may be unrelated to the trial but what about hanging your own baby out of a window. This guy is nuts! Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by happyflower on June 13, 2005, at 19:09:29
In reply to Re: Michael Jackson acquitted, posted by Phillipa on June 13, 2005, at 18:59:57
I ran a daycare for several years and saw a lot of crazy parents but that doesn't mean they are sexual abusers.
Posted by annierose on June 13, 2005, at 19:51:13
In reply to Michael Jackson acquitted, posted by partlycloudy on June 13, 2005, at 16:26:32
Peanut gallery here: I think the guy is guilty. Grown men do not sleep with young boys, for any reason. Hopefully, he will not engage in anymore sleepover parties. He should be scared. And any parent letting their child go to his house is truly ridulous.
Posted by Phillipa on June 13, 2005, at 20:31:27
In reply to Re: Michael Jackson acquitted » partlycloudy, posted by annierose on June 13, 2005, at 19:51:13
It's okay to let your own kids in bed with you to play and watch TV or movies, but i agree the parents that let their kids go were possibly motivated by his "famous" image, or they hoped to gain from their children being "friendly" with MJ. Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by Gabbi-x-2 on June 13, 2005, at 20:51:31
In reply to lots of parents are nuts!, posted by happyflower on June 13, 2005, at 19:09:29
I completely agree with everything you've said.
Especially about the crazy parents!
I think the *bed* issue was a bit overblown as far as intimating sexual abuse. Abuse is going to happen anywhere it doesn't need a bed. It was bad bad judgement,it was not OKAY.. I'm not saying that, but the fact that he was so open about it makes me think it was probably just as you said, a big slumber party.
I know one of the accusers the one with cancer, had previously been trying to get money from Jay Leno. I think that was in Mcleans, not the *STAR* anyway, it was legitimate news.
I guess I share this bias to an extent, but I don't think if it was a woman and a bunch of little girls having a slumber party there would be the same uproar about it.
Posted by JLynn on June 13, 2005, at 20:53:04
In reply to Re: Michael Jackson acquitted, posted by Phillipa on June 13, 2005, at 20:31:27
Ok what if he didn't molest any kids...BUT what about letting them drink and showing them porn???
Posted by TofuEmmy on June 13, 2005, at 21:32:14
In reply to Michael Jackson acquitted, posted by partlycloudy on June 13, 2005, at 16:26:32
I had a prof who specialized in treating guys with pedophelia. She said that they fell into 2 categories. 1) guys who were victims themselves at some point -- so anger, sex, love and children got all mixed up for them, and 2) guys who are emotionally still children and they relate to kids as peers. So, they are attracted to their child peers. Who does that sound like??
emmy
Posted by Gabbi-x-2 on June 13, 2005, at 21:47:26
In reply to Re: Michael Jackson acquitted, posted by JLynn on June 13, 2005, at 20:53:04
> Ok what if he didn't molest any kids...BUT what about letting them drink and showing them porn???
disgusting, reprehensible, but.. unfortunately it's not that uncommon among un-famous adult men and boys.
Posted by Gabbi-x-2 on June 13, 2005, at 21:48:32
In reply to Re: Michael Jackson acquitted, posted by TofuEmmy on June 13, 2005, at 21:32:14
> I had a prof who specialized in treating guys with pedophelia. She said that they fell into 2 categories. 1) guys who were victims themselves at some point -- so anger, sex, love and children got all mixed up for them, and 2) guys who are emotionally still children and they relate to kids as peers. So, they are attracted to their child peers. Who does that sound like??
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> emmyYes but all poodles are dogs, not all dogs are poodles.
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Posted by happyflower on June 13, 2005, at 21:59:36
In reply to Re: Michael Jackson acquitted, posted by JLynn on June 13, 2005, at 20:53:04
> Ok what if he didn't molest any kids...BUT what about letting them drink and showing them porn???
He was found to be innocent of this and all charges.
Posted by Shortelise on June 14, 2005, at 13:26:52
In reply to Michael Jackson acquitted, posted by partlycloudy on June 13, 2005, at 16:26:32
Any parent who puts their child in the position in which these children were put should be the subject of some serious intervention.
Posted by Phillipa on June 14, 2005, at 23:26:26
In reply to Re: Michael Jackson verdict » happyflower, posted by Tamar on June 13, 2005, at 17:45:41
Heard on the radio that it was being announce this afternoon, but didn't know what it was. Thanks, Phillipa
Posted by ed_uk on June 14, 2005, at 23:26:26
In reply to Re: Michael Jackson verdict, posted by Phillipa on June 13, 2005, at 18:57:29
OMG, he's been found not guilty. That's awesome! I love his music :-) Does this mean people will be playing MJ in bars again? I hope so. Even if he was found guilty, I wouldn't stop listening to his music - I couldn't resist. I like Thriller, Bad, Off the Wall.....
~Ed
Posted by ed_uk on June 14, 2005, at 23:26:27
In reply to Thriller!, posted by ed_uk on June 13, 2005, at 20:10:46
>OMG, he's been found not guilty. That's awesome!
OK, just to clarify. I only think it's awesome if he actually is innocent.
~Ed
Posted by KaraS on June 14, 2005, at 23:26:27
In reply to Re: Thriller! » ed_uk, posted by ed_uk on June 13, 2005, at 20:28:58
> >OMG, he's been found not guilty. That's awesome!
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> OK, just to clarify. I only think it's awesome if he actually is innocent.
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> ~Ed
Who knows? All we know is that the prosecution wasn't able to prove to these particular jurors that he was guilty beyond reasonable doubt.At any rate, right after the verdict came in, I went for a walk with my Walkman. Michael Jackson's songs were all over the airwaves for the first time in ages.
K
Posted by happyflower on June 14, 2005, at 23:26:27
In reply to Re: Thriller! » ed_uk, posted by KaraS on June 13, 2005, at 21:21:18
I was a music major in college, love classical and jazz, but I LOVE Michael Jackson's music!!!!
Posted by JenStar on June 14, 2005, at 23:26:28
In reply to Re: Thriller!, posted by happyflower on June 13, 2005, at 21:57:54
Well, I'm not sure about his guilt or innocence. But I AM sure we're in for a plethora of "made for TV" movies, books by sh***y authors trying to do exposes and tell-alls a la Monica Cigar Lewinsky, and possibly more lawsuits in civil court. He's never going away!!!
JenStar
Posted by ed_uk on June 14, 2005, at 23:26:28
In reply to Re: Thriller! » ed_uk, posted by KaraS on June 13, 2005, at 21:21:18
Hi K,
>Who knows? All we know is that the prosecution wasn't able to prove to these particular jurors that he was guilty beyond reasonable doubt.
I know.......we never will know. I do know I love his music though!
Ed xxx
Posted by ed_uk on June 14, 2005, at 23:26:28
In reply to Re: Thriller!, posted by happyflower on June 13, 2005, at 21:57:54
>I LOVE Michael Jackson's music!!!!
Hehehe, me too! It gets me all excited :-) In fact, I think I'll listen to Billie Jean right now, I've got my CD player next to the computer. Ooooh, I just put it on and turned the bass up.
>love classical
I love Baroque.... especially Italian.
~Ed
Posted by Maximus on June 16, 2005, at 9:36:35
In reply to Michael Jackson acquitted, posted by partlycloudy on June 13, 2005, at 16:26:32
My opinion? Mike is culprit just like OJ Simpson is. And i think it is not finished. He will have some civil pursuits. Sneddon has not been very wise in this process.
Mike is a nature's freak. While i don't think he is a child molester, i think he is certainly a pedophil. Time will tell. Voilą...
Posted by crazyteresa on June 16, 2005, at 18:56:15
In reply to Re: OJ Simpson again! » partlycloudy, posted by Maximus on June 16, 2005, at 9:36:35
> Mike is a nature's freak.
There's nothing natural about what he's done to himself! Makes you wonder about the plastic surgeon...
crazyteresa
Posted by Angela2 on June 16, 2005, at 19:11:48
In reply to Re: OJ Simpson again!, posted by crazyteresa on June 16, 2005, at 18:56:15
Does this mean that if I ever become famous I can kill my exboyfriend and get away with it? lol.
Posted by Angela2 on June 16, 2005, at 19:22:09
In reply to Re: OJ Simpson again!, posted by Angela2 on June 16, 2005, at 19:11:48
> Does this mean that if I ever become famous I can kill my exboyfriend and get away with it? lol.
*sigh* oh me oh my, that is such a bad joke. I want to take it back. (*takes it back and puts in its place, "rob a bank"*). There. Now It's never been said.
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