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Posted by Jamal Spelling on February 13, 2008, at 1:41:59
In reply to Re: blocked for 2 weeks » linkadge, posted by Dr. Bob on February 3, 2008, at 1:31:08
I would have liked to ask Linkadge a question about APs, but now I see he is blocked.
It isn't in the broader interests of the community to block knowledgeable posters like Linkadge.
Posted by Phillipa on February 13, 2008, at 10:30:04
In reply to Re: blocked for 2 weeks, posted by Jamal Spelling on February 13, 2008, at 1:41:59
Link is blocked? On what board I wondered where he was. Phillipa
Posted by Phoenix1 on February 13, 2008, at 13:23:34
In reply to Re: blocked for 2 weeks, posted by Jamal Spelling on February 13, 2008, at 1:41:59
> I would have liked to ask Linkadge a question about APs, but now I see he is blocked.
>
> It isn't in the broader interests of the community to block knowledgeable posters like Linkadge.Jamal,
I agree that linkadge is very knowledgeable, and it's great to have him around to post. I have to say that I feel that the discussion that got him blocked was offensive to me personally. I have never had ECT and am not even considering it, but the conversation condemned it which might have lead others to feel put down or accused. I worry that people considering it as a last resort would be swayed by the conversation. ECT has side effects, but so do all treatments. It's a risk/benefit calculation that needs to be made, as in every treatment...
Anyways, just my 2 cents. I really like linkadge and his posts, but that one thread seemed out of line to me.
Phoenix1
Posted by Dr. Bob on February 14, 2008, at 0:57:58
In reply to Re: blocked for 2 weeks » Jamal Spelling, posted by Phoenix1 on February 13, 2008, at 13:23:34
Phoenix,
Thanks for your support. But it can be especially challenging to support a block in a civil way. Try to stick to I-statements. For example, instead of:
> I have to say that I feel that the discussion that got him blocked was offensive to me personally.
>
> I really like linkadge and his posts, but that one thread seemed out of line to me.an alternative might be something like:
> I have to say that I personally felt offended by the discussion that got him blocked.
>
> I really like linkadge and his posts, but I disagree with how he phrased that one post.For more about I-statements, see:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20040112/msgs/320097.html
Thanks,
Bob
Posted by Jamal Spelling on February 14, 2008, at 3:24:57
In reply to Re: blocked for 2 weeks » Jamal Spelling, posted by Phoenix1 on February 13, 2008, at 13:23:34
> Anyways, just my 2 cents. I really like linkadge and his posts, but that one thread seemed out of line to me.
*Out of line* would be going to hospital to get bilateral electro-cautery of your nasal turbinates, but instead getting bilateral electro-shock therapy of your temporal lobes.
Now that's something to think about...
Posted by Jamal Spelling on February 14, 2008, at 6:49:39
In reply to Out of line would be..., posted by Jamal Spelling on February 14, 2008, at 3:24:57
Even worse would be going to hospital for bilateral electro-shock therapy of your temporal lobes, and instead they give you bilateral vasectomy using electro-cautery.
I wonder if I could sue for malpractice?
Posted by Jamal Spelling on February 14, 2008, at 16:18:32
In reply to Even worse would be..., posted by Jamal Spelling on February 14, 2008, at 6:49:39
Not to mention the girl who went in to have her wisdom teeth removed, and came out with calf implants instead.
This is serious business, people! It happens every day at hospitals all over the world that people get the wrong surgery done on them.
Posted by Phoenix1 on February 14, 2008, at 17:16:44
In reply to Re: I-statements » Phoenix1, posted by Dr. Bob on February 14, 2008, at 0:57:58
> Phoenix,
>
> Thanks for your support. But it can be especially challenging to support a block in a civil way. Try to stick to I-statements. For example, instead of:
>
> > I have to say that I feel that the discussion that got him blocked was offensive to me personally.
> >
> > I really like linkadge and his posts, but that one thread seemed out of line to me.
>
> an alternative might be something like:
>
> > I have to say that I personally felt offended by the discussion that got him blocked.
> >
> > I really like linkadge and his posts, but I disagree with how he phrased that one post.
>
> For more about I-statements, see:
>
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20040112/msgs/320097.html
>
> Thanks,
>
> BobSorry Dr. Bob,
And sorry linkadge, if you took offense to how I responded to the discussion of your block. That was not my intention.
I did try to make I statements wherever possible, but I see how your rephrased I statements are less accusatory, and inflammatory. I'm still working on this "I" statement thing, so I appreciate your comments. I will work a little harder next time. I took a piece of advice from an old thread, I think it might have been from Dinah, something to the effect of "don't write anything that you wouldn't say in a face to face conversation with a person". I think I followed this advice in my post, as I certainly edited it once or twice to tone down my feelings of anger that had infiltrated the original reply I wrote.
I'm finding it a little difficult walking the line between effectively expressing my opinions civilly, and saying nothing meaningful but remaining civil. Does that make sense? If you really concentrate on civility too much, it can make it hard to say anything meaningful at all.
Thanks again,
Phoenix1
Posted by ClearSkies on February 14, 2008, at 17:59:20
In reply to Sorry, and thanks for the comments » Dr. Bob, posted by Phoenix1 on February 14, 2008, at 17:16:44
> I'm finding it a little difficult walking the line between effectively expressing my opinions civilly, and saying nothing meaningful but remaining civil. Does that make sense? If you really concentrate on civility too much, it can make it hard to say anything meaningful at all.
>I find this to be an ongoing problem for myself, and the cause of much of my silence on certain threads, where I would like to contribute, but can't find the civil way to do it. It's only myself who is bothered by my lack of participation. The words do torture me.
ClearSkies
Posted by Dr. Bob on February 16, 2008, at 14:54:35
In reply to Sorry, and thanks for the comments » Dr. Bob, posted by Phoenix1 on February 14, 2008, at 17:16:44
> I took a piece of advice from an old thread, I think it might have been from Dinah, something to the effect of "don't write anything that you wouldn't say in a face to face conversation with a person". I think I followed this advice in my post, as I certainly edited it once or twice to tone down my feelings of anger that had infiltrated the original reply I wrote.
Thanks for working on this. Practice (usually) makes (more) perfect.
> I'm finding it a little difficult walking the line between effectively expressing my opinions civilly, and saying nothing meaningful but remaining civil. Does that make sense? If you really concentrate on civility too much, it can make it hard to say anything meaningful at all.
It does make sense, and it can be difficult. And sometimes one may in fact not have anything civil to say, at least not right then.
Bob
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