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Posted by NikkiT2 on October 31, 2004, at 16:52:59
Dr Bob,
the FAQ states:
"What can I do if I feel harassed here?
First, I'm sorry if that happens. I try to keep the atmosphere supportive, but unfortunately it isn't always. To help, please be civil even if you feel harassed.I'd rather lines of communication stayed open, but if that's not possible, you can, as a last resort, ask another poster not to post to you anymore. If you think you need to do that, follow these steps:
Identify a post by them to you that makes you feel harassed.
Ask them not to post to you anymore by replying to that post with the "add name of previous poster" box checked. Please be civil when you do so; "please don't post to me" is enough. If it's not clear to me why their post makes you feel harassed, I may ask. I may also decide their post isn't civil, but that's a separate issue.
Save the URL of your request to them.
If they do post to you after that, let me know the URLs of their post to you and of your earlier request to them. Please be civil when you do so.
If you post to them, it's OK for them to post to you in response. Your request stays in effect unless you change your mind, which you may do at any time (and are encouraged to do at some time to reopen lines of communication).
Posting to someone means directing either the subject line or the body of a post to them. Replying to posts by someone isn't necessarily posting to them."
What I would like to know is whether you feel that harrassment can only take place by someone posting explicitly TO you?? Is it not possible that to be harrassed under other circumstances, such as, being constantly posted ABOUT, or your words referenced in someone way??Thankyou,
Nikki
Posted by Dr. Bob on November 1, 2004, at 3:19:15
In reply to Request for Clarification on a rule, posted by NikkiT2 on October 31, 2004, at 16:52:59
> What I would like to know is whether you feel that harrassment can only take place by someone posting explicitly TO you?? Is it not possible that to be harrassed under other circumstances, such as, being constantly posted ABOUT, or your words referenced in someone way??
That's possible, too. And that's partly the reason for the new 3-post rule...
Bob
Posted by nikkit2 on November 1, 2004, at 4:53:28
In reply to Re: Request for Clarification on a rule, posted by Dr. Bob on November 1, 2004, at 3:19:15
Surely it would just be so much easier if requests for determination were simply emailed to you.
I doubt I post enough here for the rule to come into affect in posts regarding me (if its the three a day rule), yet having one singled out every single day, to me, feels like harrassment.
You don't seem to be currently taking any action to protect those that are feeling harrassed, other than trying to find new rules.. maybe simply telling the person / people who might causing others to feel harrassed that they back off a bit and stop harrassing others.
Nikki
Posted by Dr. Bob on November 1, 2004, at 15:25:52
In reply to Re: Request for Clarification on a rule » Dr. Bob, posted by nikkit2 on November 1, 2004, at 4:53:28
> Surely it would just be so much easier if requests for determination were simply emailed to you.
In some ways, yes, and people are free to do that...
> I doubt I post enough here for the rule to come into affect in posts regarding me (if its the three a day rule)...
It's not that 3-post rule, it's the other one:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20041027/msgs/407882.html
> You don't seem to be currently taking any action to protect those that are feeling harrassed, other than trying to find new rules.. maybe simply telling the person / people who might causing others to feel harrassed that they back off a bit and stop harrassing others.
One advantage of a rule is that people might be able to predict when they should back off...
Bob
Posted by Noa on November 1, 2004, at 18:31:24
In reply to Re: Request for Clarification on a rule, posted by Dr. Bob on November 1, 2004, at 15:25:52
>It's not that 3-post rule, it's the other one:
>One advantage of a rule is that people might be able to predict when they should back off...
Except that predicting requires understanding and remembering all the rules, and it is way confusing to some of us*--I feel too overwhelmed to have to learn the difference between one 3-post rule and another 3-post rule. It has to be made much simpler, IMHO.
I still like the idea of a total max of 3 such posts per day and after that if a poster has more, they need to email it. That way, it addresses several goals:
1. Serves the purpose outlined by someone earlier of being aired in the group, which might have several important advantages. (I'm sorry I'm not remembering who mentioned these points--they were good!)
2. Limits how many grievances/ clarifications occur on the board by any one poster (maybe leading to people having to prioritize their grievances)
3. Gives people a way to express those additional greivances if they've used up their daily limit.
4. It's SIMPLE and easy to remember--3 per day, email after that.
Thanks.
* Kind of reminds me of trying to pick up all the ins and outs of complicated rules in some sports (or role playing games like Magic Cards, etc.).
:)
Posted by Dr. Bob on November 4, 2004, at 10:11:13
In reply to Re: Request for Clarification on a rule » Dr. Bob, posted by Noa on November 1, 2004, at 18:31:24
> I feel too overwhelmed to have to learn the difference between one 3-post rule and another 3-post rule.
The first has to do with consecutive posts, the second with requests for review...
> It has to be made much simpler, IMHO.
I try to keep it as simple as possible, but change does tend to be disruptive.
OTOH, interpersonal relationships are complicated, why would simple rules suffice?
> Kind of reminds me of trying to pick up all the ins and outs of complicated rules in some sports
Welcome to the major leagues! :-)
Bob
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