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Posted by deerock on December 10, 2013, at 12:46:05
after two consecutive days of unexplained blood pressure spikes from 140/100 to 160/100 my doctor told me to go off of nardil and get baseline blood pressure readings for a number of days.
its really odd because i have high blood pressure as it is but on nardil i seem to get symptoms where as without it i dont.im not really sure what to make of this experience but after having near fainting spells at work two days in a row not tied to any food intake, my doctor said to stop it.
Posted by stargazer2 on December 10, 2013, at 19:18:26
In reply to nardil experience comes to an end, posted by deerock on December 10, 2013, at 12:46:05
Stopping Nardil seems reasonable, not sure what is causing the hypertension if what are eating is not a known offender. To many unknowns to say what is the causative agent.
Posted by deerock on December 10, 2013, at 22:19:21
In reply to Re: nardil experience comes to an end, posted by stargazer2 on December 10, 2013, at 19:18:26
thanks star. the doc said to monitor my BP after going off it to get a baseline and then we can decide to go back on or try something else.
i have dysthimia, not major depression so i can live without meds. i have done therapy for years but it hasnt broken through it.
a guy in boston carl salzman who is a famous doc told me to resolve the issue in therapy by addressing repressed anger but that has gone on for years, being in therapy, and it hasnt worked. well maybe just not yet, hopefully.
Posted by Phillipa on December 11, 2013, at 8:55:59
In reply to Re: nardil experience comes to an end » stargazer2, posted by deerock on December 10, 2013, at 22:19:21
What made you decide to go on meds if you don't need them? I want off them. And so far haven't been able to. Maybe it's my age and length of being on them. I wouldn't take anything I didn't need. Best of luck in therapy. Phillipa
Posted by stargazer2 on December 11, 2013, at 14:14:15
In reply to Re: nardil experience comes to an end » stargazer2, posted by deerock on December 10, 2013, at 22:19:21
Dee, I think I have many more unresolved psychic issues than I am even aware of. I have tried therapy on and off for many years but have not found a therapist who targets the important issues that need to be addressed.
Can you give me any advice as to how to address anger as I never get angry and stuff my feelings down even though I try and resolve this it is just what I know and can't seem to undo it.PS I live in Connecticut
thanks.
Star
Posted by deerock on December 11, 2013, at 21:14:11
In reply to Re: nardil experience/Repressed anger, posted by stargazer2 on December 11, 2013, at 14:14:15
hi star. i live in boston.
from what i understand, all repressed anger means is that you are angry about something and not entirely in touch with the real reason and the real feeling associated with it.for example - your parents may never have nurtured you in the appropriate way. as a child you became very angry over this but were unable to express it for fear of losing your care givers and being alone and helpless. so you turned your back on your feelings in order to be compliant. you found a way to pretend the anger was not there since you were not safe to express it.
as an adult, someone who did this as a child may learn to function in the world as a compliant, kind person when in reality they are very angry about their past and its impact on them but they are still unaware of the feelings or the feelings since they are not expressed come out in other ways ie: depression, dysthmia, drug abuse, etc.so therapy that gets at repressed anger would deal with why you got angry in the first place, identify how your parents let you down, where they fell short, how it made you feel. those feelings are not always easy to access and can require a skilled therapist who will do more than just talk about what a hard day you had.
let me know if that makes sense. ive found many analytic or psychodynamic clinicians can work in this way but you have to find one you trust and if you dont trust them you need to tell them and they need to handle that in a way that helps you build trust as opposed to blaming or shaming you.
Posted by stargazer2 on December 12, 2013, at 20:17:16
In reply to Re: nardil experience/Repressed anger » stargazer2, posted by deerock on December 11, 2013, at 21:14:11
Of course it makes sense I have not found a therapist who can help me learn to express the anger/ I remain a passive kind person with no real emotions to express unlike everyone else who lets their emotions rage wildly and goes on and lives a real fulfilling life.
How do you find a good therapist to work through this with you. All my therpists skirt around the real stuff themselves.
Posted by deerock on December 12, 2013, at 21:01:25
In reply to Re: nardil experience/Repressed anger, posted by stargazer2 on December 12, 2013, at 20:17:16
is there a psychoanalytic school in your area?
this place or others like it are good places to start. analytic therapists usually have much more training in actually doing therapy than others. they are not necessarily all better than other therapists but they have much more training and if you focus on an analytic school to find a therapist for yourself you are more likely to find someone good.just keep looking. you will know when you find a good one. the main thing is to voice your concerns.
http://www.cspponline.org/page/page/7142234.htm
tell them all my other therapists havent helped me and i dont know if you can. the therapist for you will answer in a way that makes you trust them.a lot of it is gut feel. once i had a therapist tell me youve had a lot of treatment from great people nothing has cured you what are we going to do? i knew she wasnt for me.
another one i felt was judging me and when i told her she just denied that she was.
my current one becomes concerned when i say its not working and wants me to tell her exactly why and then she changes what she is doing based on my feedback. thats a good therapist. the bad ones just keep doing what they do they dont actually take what youre saying in in a meaningful way.
but its not so black and white either. just keep looking. dont give up.
Posted by stargazer2 on December 13, 2013, at 14:00:23
In reply to Re: nardil experience/Repressed anger » stargazer2, posted by deerock on December 12, 2013, at 21:01:25
Dee, That website doesn't give names of therapists.
Thank you for your help though.
Star
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