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Posted by willyee on July 25, 2005, at 3:38:01
Heres a dilema i have,just curious for any suggestions or even to know if anyone else deals with it.
During the day,especialy morning after awakening,i feel very lethargic,going back to lay down seems like the brightest option.
In fact sometimes i have to take on a maniac behaviour and jumpstart with a shower and push myslef into tasks so as not to head back to the bed.Also i notice during miday its very easy for me to lay down and peacefully take a nap,its inviting.
I also notice when awakening from a short daytime nap,i feel fine,and can sit up watch tv etc.
NOW heres the dilema,when it comes to night time,whether i napped or not regardless,im never looking forward to heading to bed period,also when i try to set myself up for it i notice once the light goes out and i lay down i experiance a huge burst of energy,like i could very easly get up and want to do things rather than sleep.
Unlike the drift of the nap i find myself forcing a sleep attempt,usualy unsuccesfully.
As important i notice if i do make it through a full night,unlike a nap,i wake in terrable TERRABLE condition.I feel very very depressed,very lethargic,like some hit me with a bat on the hour as i slept.Also i am very prone to nightmares during night sleep where as a nap never producses a single nightmare.
Also the nap the sleep is inviting,where as night time i feel this lift of depression and i just dont want to be there laying down trying to sleep.
I dont know if this is because of the metabolites of my specific med parnate,or im just weird or what.
I do know however that i have a book that states electro magnetic fields are milder at night and depressives find it much more calming at night,which is why many become night owls because they feel better at night and feel more able to do the things at night that neglected while sleeping all day.
Any comments?
Posted by Declan on July 25, 2005, at 4:23:59
In reply to Dilema...any idea?, posted by willyee on July 25, 2005, at 3:38:01
Hi Willy
It's the Parnate, isn't it? But apart from reducing your Parnate dose and/or getting some Xyrem, I dunno. But good quality sleep is important.
This is different, but I found that using a Musashi protein powder kept me awake, or nearly so, all night. Contained some free form amino acids, probably phenylalanine. Cabergoline did the same, actually.
Incidentally, what is the highest dose of Parnate you could take and get a reasonable nights sleep?
Declan
Posted by Declan on July 25, 2005, at 18:00:04
In reply to Re: Dilema...any idea?, posted by Declan on July 25, 2005, at 4:23:59
I blame some dark chocolate (2 squares at breakfast) for last night. PEA?? I dunno what to do with myself after a bad nights sleep.
Declan
Posted by Phillipa on July 25, 2005, at 19:32:25
In reply to Re: Dilema...any idea?, posted by Declan on July 25, 2005, at 18:00:04
Willyee, Maybe that's why I always liked 3-ll for work. And now I become more focused at night and stay up until 2. Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by ed_uk on July 26, 2005, at 14:28:10
In reply to Re: Dilema...any idea?, posted by Declan on July 25, 2005, at 18:00:04
Hi Declan,
>I dunno what to do with myself after a bad nights sleep.
I had a really bad night on Sunday, couldn't sleep at all. I took 10mg amitriptyline last night to help me sleep. It worked well and I felt good today.
I once took 50mg of amitriptyline to help me sleep - I felt dreadful the next day. 10mg was perfect.
~Ed
Posted by willyee on July 26, 2005, at 19:51:41
In reply to Re: Dilema...any idea?, posted by Declan on July 25, 2005, at 4:23:59
I dont know its possable its the parnate,but weird thing is during the day while ingesting parnate im more fatugued,which is why i at times add a stimulant to it.
Perhaps its parnate leaving the system at night,since its metabolite is close to Amphetamine,maybe parnate is more sedating when taken and slighty stimulative upon leaving.
My parnate dose usualy is far from bedtime.Xyrem isnt a option as i have enough to use for anxiety not nearly enough for the high doses required for sleep.
Elavil helped me too at 10 mg,but now it doesent.I dont think the brain wants drugs period lol.ANyway its the nightmares,the dreadful nightmares that come at night,i don understant why i NEVER have them during naps,ever.
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