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Posted by willyee on July 1, 2005, at 8:36:58
Right now im taking parnate,dexadrine,nuerontion,and klonopin as needed which is very very rare.
I use these in certain amounts,most in very small amounts except for parnate.This protocol is giving me medicaore relieaf which is ok for now.
I of course continue to look for better suited alternatives,and im VERY intersted in amisulpride
in small doses.My doc will be willing to work with me in giving me a script to get it,so that isnt an issue.WHAT is however,is it worth it?I read conflicting testimonials both pro and con.I know ixus had just started using it with parnate but i havent seen him active which hopefully is a good thing.
Does anyone know if this would augment parnate well?Has anyone used it with success.
What im hoping to get from it is this,a more PROSOCIAL desire to get out and about,something parnate doesent do for me.
TO add a addiontal anti-depressant effect,since parnates seems to fluctuate often,can this med perhaps augment parnate to the point of providing a more STABLE anti depressant effect?
Also some minimal anxiety exists with parnate,as well as lastly theres this driven feeling that i cant seem to shake that parnate might be aggrvating.I seem to need to be productive at all times.
SO there it is,does anyone with preferable personal experiance believe the med amisulpride
at the lower doses can address any of the problems i stated.I dont expect all of course,but any would be welcomed.I esecpialy want to work on the sociability aspect,parnate seems even when its working well to make me not care that im home,to let me be fine with it,i want to have the desire to go out when im asked,to be around people,something inside keeps me,this is what im hoping amisulpride can really adress.
As a note the only things i remeber off hand that have in the past are deprenyl,xyrem,and kava kava.Please someone advise if this med is worth the trouble,i dont see many options and im hopeful on it,keeping in mind it will be used with parnate a med that is working to a good extent.
THANKS IN ADVANCE!
Posted by ixus on July 1, 2005, at 12:49:24
In reply to Amisulpride..pls some responses, posted by willyee on July 1, 2005, at 8:36:58
> Right now im taking parnate,dexadrine,nuerontion,and klonopin as needed which is very very rare.
>
> I use these in certain amounts,most in very small amounts except for parnate.This protocol is giving me medicaore relieaf which is ok for now.
>
> I of course continue to look for better suited alternatives,and im VERY intersted in amisulpride
> in small doses.My doc will be willing to work with me in giving me a script to get it,so that isnt an issue.
>
> WHAT is however,is it worth it?I read conflicting testimonials both pro and con.I know ixus had just started using it with parnate but i havent seen him active which hopefully is a good thing.
>
> Does anyone know if this would augment parnate well?Has anyone used it with success.
>
> What im hoping to get from it is this,a more PROSOCIAL desire to get out and about,something parnate doesent do for me.
>
> TO add a addiontal anti-depressant effect,since parnates seems to fluctuate often,can this med perhaps augment parnate to the point of providing a more STABLE anti depressant effect?
>
> Also some minimal anxiety exists with parnate,as well as lastly theres this driven feeling that i cant seem to shake that parnate might be aggrvating.I seem to need to be productive at all times.
>
> SO there it is,does anyone with preferable personal experiance believe the med amisulpride
> at the lower doses can address any of the problems i stated.I dont expect all of course,but any would be welcomed.I esecpialy want to work on the sociability aspect,parnate seems even when its working well to make me not care that im home,to let me be fine with it,i want to have the desire to go out when im asked,to be around people,something inside keeps me,this is what im hoping amisulpride can really adress.
>
>
> As a note the only things i remeber off hand that have in the past are deprenyl,xyrem,and kava kava.
>
> Please someone advise if this med is worth the trouble,i dont see many options and im hopeful on it,keeping in mind it will be used with parnate a med that is working to a good extent.
>
>
> THANKS IN ADVANCE!
Hi Will,
I was just about to answer you. Sulpiride brings huge relief from anxiety, it may be stimulating also and it is indeed to a certain level. I don't know anything about amisulpride. I tried it once with fluoxetine few years ago. I did not noticed any effect, I tried it in very small doses. Now I am on Parnate so it is tough to compare.
Don't expect huge antidepressant effect from antipsychotics. However they act as nice tranquilizers.
There are few that are used in Poland for this purposal (combat anxiety and depression):sulpiride (Sulpiryd, Eglonyl) - 200-400 mg/d,
perazine (Pernazinum) 100-300 mg/d,
levomepromazine (Tisercin) 50-150 mg/d,
flupenthixol (Fluanxol) 1-3 mg/d,
chlorprothixene (Chlorprotixen) - 200-400 mg/dI don't know which one is the best, but if you look for antipsychotics with antianxiety properties, those listed above should be useful. Try to get some feedback from the web about them. I guess first 3 positions are especially interesting.
/ixus
Posted by blueberry on July 1, 2005, at 14:58:53
In reply to Amisulpride..pls some responses, posted by willyee on July 1, 2005, at 8:36:58
I liked amisulpride when I tried it for about 3 months. Doses were in the 25mg to 100mg range. But poor sleep and sexual side effects were not tolerable for me. Amisulpride was kind of like a mild smooth speed to me. But sometimes people get tired instead. It was prosocial with me, making me comfortable talking with anyone. I was also taking prozac, but amisulpride provided the prosocial part.
I like the idea of zyprexa better. I would want to try amisulpride for a week and zyprexa for a week and go with which I liked better. With these meds, you can usually tell within a week if they are going to help or not.
Posted by ixus on July 1, 2005, at 15:05:53
In reply to Re: Amisulpride..pls some responses, posted by blueberry on July 1, 2005, at 14:58:53
> I liked amisulpride when I tried it for about 3 months. Doses were in the 25mg to 100mg range. But poor sleep and sexual side effects were not tolerable for me. Amisulpride was kind of like a mild smooth speed to me. But sometimes people get tired instead. It was prosocial with me, making me comfortable talking with anyone. I was also taking prozac, but amisulpride provided the prosocial part.
>
> I like the idea of zyprexa better. I would want to try amisulpride for a week and zyprexa for a week and go with which I liked better. With these meds, you can usually tell within a week if they are going to help or not.
>To avoid sleep problems, the last dose should not be taken later than 4 am. I experienced that with sulpiride as well.
/ixus
Posted by Tom Twilight on July 1, 2005, at 15:37:12
In reply to Re: Amisulpride..pls some responses, posted by blueberry on July 1, 2005, at 14:58:53
Sorry to be negative
Amisulpride was like a placebo to me, it gave me slight sexual dysfunction and was slightly sedating at high dosages
Some people seem to get good results with this med, but it didn't help my social anxiety
Posted by willyee on July 1, 2005, at 15:50:10
In reply to Re: Amisulpride..Didn't work for me, posted by Tom Twilight on July 1, 2005, at 15:37:12
Thanks for the responses,they really helped.To answer a few things first ill say it was hard enough to get amusiplride,unfrotunatly sulpride isnt even an option.Also the reason im intersted in this one is this one article here which compare it to Amiptine,excuse my spelling on both those meds,but im sure u know the ones im speakinf of.
Anyway supposedly there was a very small study that showed these two meds having equal effectivness on depression.....here it is
www.amineptine.com/aminepvamisulp.htm
Also im hoping two things help contribute to any success with it,first ill be using the low dose of no more than 50 mg,second and most importantly im adding it to parnate a med that already is WORKING to some degree.Im hoping if some people had success with it mainly alone,then its promising adding it to a semi-effective med would increase its chances.I dont need it to do much as parnate can cover most symptoms,just the prosocial effect is what im hoping for.Well i think i am gonna go for it,i might as well now or itll bug me and ill end up doing it later down the line.
Thanks for the responses.
Will
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