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Posted by calamityjane on March 9, 2005, at 19:06:56
Spriggy.(& everyone else with an opinion on this)..
You mentioned on the other thread that for some its not necessarily a psych issue but a spiritual issue. I 100% agree with that, and from what I understand you are a spiritual person. With that said, I feel that I have been spiritually attacked through my problems regarding anxiety. The times I am the most active in church seem to be the same times that I feel scared of EVERYthing.
What I am getting at, as a Christian do you think using meds to tackle this problem is unnecessary? Do you think that when it comes to our spiritual problems we should make an effort to let God handle it, or rely on the meds? I have struggled with this regarding my use of Adderall. I depend on it instead of God.
Posted by Phillipa on March 9, 2005, at 19:17:25
In reply to Spirituality meds..(Spriggy), posted by calamityjane on March 9, 2005, at 19:06:56
Spriggy's Dad took a turn for the worse. The last I heard, she was checking airline flights. She may be gone for a few days. Let her be in our Prayers. Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by calamityjane on March 9, 2005, at 19:21:04
In reply to Re: Spirituality meds..(Spriggy) » calamityjane, posted by Phillipa on March 9, 2005, at 19:17:25
What happened? I am very new to this board and I don't know backstories of the other posters.
I hope things work out for the best, no matter what is going on.
She seems like a very caring and sweet person from what I have read so far.
(And so do you, Phillipa!)
Posted by Phillipa on March 9, 2005, at 19:56:00
In reply to Re: Spirituality meds..(Spriggy), posted by calamityjane on March 9, 2005, at 19:21:04
Thanks for the compliment. Her Father has been very ill and in ICU this past week. I believe she is going to fly and see him. He could lapse into a comma soon. He has multiple organ problems. I'm sure she will explain when she returns. Yes, she is a very caring person, and is trying to learn as much as she can about meds. She still has time for us even with her own problems. Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by Spriggy on March 9, 2005, at 20:14:09
In reply to Re: Spirituality meds..(Spriggy) » calamityjane, posted by Phillipa on March 9, 2005, at 19:56:00
I fly out tomorrow morning, so I thought I'd check this one last time after I got packed and my kiddos in bed.
You know what calamityjane, I think there can definitely be a link of being spiritually oppressed when we are actively trying to seek after God.
If you think of it simply, God is good. Satan is not. If you are out to get to know God and desire to be near to Him, the bad guy (satan) will get jealous and will come after you. He will use any tactic he can use, depression, anxiety, addiction, etc..
That's his job- to keep you from knowing the real, loving, true God.
NOW... if you have done all you know to do in the "spirit" realm to fight back on his attacks on you- you have prayed the scriptures, been prayed over by other believers, you stay in God's word and believe it, etc.. and you continue to battle.. Then I would then say that possibly it is not a spiritual battle, but more of a physical problem..
I think for me, it has been both. I think I had a physical reaction that satan used against me because I was weak and did his best to get my eyes off of God and onto my illness.
When I could stand before God and KNOW that I had fought this battle WITH EVERYTHING I had within me spiritually speaking, and saw that I was NOT getting better. I knew it was okay with God for me to go to the "natural" and seek help from doctor's.
Remember, Christ chose 12 disciples, Luke was one of them and he was a doctor. So Jesus has nothing against doctor's.
There will be times in this life, in this world, while we are in these natural bodies that no matter how much we love God and serve Him, we will get sick, weak, down, and depressed. Christ never promised a care free life. He just promised that He had conquered this "world" that we see with our physical eyes and that we can hold on with HOPE knowing there is so much more than just "this."
He has a place prepared for us that will never require us to see a doctor, a psychiatrist, or a counselor.
We will never worry,have anxiety, panic attacks, have depression, or feel down.So I believe as long as your hope remains in Christ, you can use medicine to help yourself feel better.. Sometimes, feeling better physically will make a huge difference in how you feel spiritually.
He knows your heart. He sees your desire to know Him. That's what He's concerned about, not about if you use medicine or not.
((hugs)))
Posted by Phillipa on March 9, 2005, at 20:19:31
In reply to here until tomorrow morning, posted by Spriggy on March 9, 2005, at 20:14:09
Sorry, I thought you may have left. Beautifully said Spriggy. You are Special! Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by calamityjane on March 9, 2005, at 22:33:45
In reply to Re: here until tomorrow morning » Spriggy, posted by Phillipa on March 9, 2005, at 20:19:31
Spriggy:
I cannot tell you how much you just did for me with what you wrote.
Its hard for me sometimes....I go from being "on-fire" to being lukewarm and I never even see it coming. Guilt is one of my major issues, I feel guilty about everything (as I wrote about in the parents board). I think it does come w/ being a mom, but sometimes I ignore my guilt instead of facing it and fixing whatever its cause is.
Meds make me feel guilty, or at least the stimulants do. I don't know why, exactly.Anyway, your answer hit home, Spriggy. I like this board....you guys are all really cool.I'm sorry about your dad...thanks for taking the time to help me. I appreciate it.
Well, I will stop being a sap now, but thanks.
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