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Posted by crazychickuk on March 13, 2004, at 7:10:40
HI ALL, I AM ON 30 MG REMERON STILL, BEEN ON IT FOR 11 MNTHS.. WEIGHT WATCHERS ISNT GOING WELL FOR ME ANY MORE, I NEARLY F AINTED DOING THE SOUP DIET, SO I AM STARTING THE ATKINS DIET.. IS THIS SAFE TO DO WHEN ON ANTIDEPRESSANTS? TO MUCH PROTEIN? NEED SOME ADVICE PLEASE, DOCTOR TOLD ME TO GO FOR IT, AS I AM SO OBESE... AND WHAT I HAVE READ FROM THE BOOK THAT I HAVE ALOT OF CARBS STORED SO I NEED TO BURN THEM BY NMOT EA TING NO MORE AND TO EAT PROTEIN.. ANY EXPERIENCES PLEASE?
THANKYOU
DONNA
Posted by linkadge on March 13, 2004, at 17:57:12
In reply to IS THIS SAFE?, posted by crazychickuk on March 13, 2004, at 7:10:40
I don't want to give you the same old. But you probably want to eat a ballanced diet and exercise.
Dietary restrictions especially harsh carb restriction can be bad for the mood.
Exercise will do much for the mood as well as the body.
How did the aptment with the psychiatrtist go???
Linkadge
Posted by crazychickuk on March 13, 2004, at 18:21:49
In reply to Re: IS THIS SAFE?, posted by linkadge on March 13, 2004, at 17:57:12
Wanna.laff?...well,.i.was.getting.ready.for.my.appointment.2.weeks.ago.and.i.had.a.fone.call.to.say.physc.had.to.cancel.and.i.went.down.the.middle.of.the.list.again.all.because.there.is.only.one.consultant.physc.in.wales!!...Dont.it.just.make.u.mad?...I.was.raving.i.went.to.town.on.them.on.the.fone.!!..enough.is.enough.like.a.hole.frigging.yea.i.have.waited!!..anyway.i.rang.24hr.mental.health.help.line.was.crying.was.so.suicidal,.was.so.panicky.too..and.scared.they.foned.me.3.times.over.the.next.2.days.and.got.me.another.appointment.31st.march.!!
As.for.eating.a.balanced.diet.i.have.tryed.and.both.my.gyni.and.doc.have.said.do.the.atkins.as.i.need.to.cut.out.carbs.as.its.the.carbs.that.dont.fill.me.up.and.makes.me.hungrier.and.gain.weight.just.want.to.know.if.protein.diets.are.ok.with.ad's.due.to.the.protein.affect.in.an.ad?
hows.you.doing?
p.s...sorry.about.the........my.space.bar.isnt.working!!
regards
donna
Posted by linkadge on March 14, 2004, at 13:55:33
In reply to Re: IS THIS SAFE?, posted by crazychickuk on March 13, 2004, at 18:21:49
I'm doing crappy.
I was on lithium and doing fine when I started to develop chills and uncontrollable shivering.
Went to hospital.
The doctor took me off and put me on effexor and zyprexa. I feel like I am dying. Heart palps, insomnia, rage, cofusion, hypomania,... horrible.
Suicidal, afraid to exercise etc. etc, not sure if it will ever end.Anyhow.
Linkadge
Posted by snapper on March 14, 2004, at 19:38:15
In reply to Re: IS THIS SAFE?, posted by linkadge on March 14, 2004, at 13:55:33
hEY LINK , HOW ARE YA BUDDY ? i KNOW YOU SAID CRAPPY :/ SORRY TO HEAR THat I am doing crappy too.... I just feel like it will never end or it might end me( i hope not) I know you said the other day that you are only 21 --- I am 37 and i REALLLY DON'T KNOW WHAT HAS KEPT ME GOING THIS LONG! MAYBE GOD ? WHO KNOWS MY FAMILY AND MY PDOC SAID I NEED TO GET OUTSIDE OF MYSELF AND TRY NOT TO CONCENTRATE ON MY "OWN PROBLEMS" BUT EVEN WHEN i DO i JUST CAN'T HELP BUT KNOW THAT THE &*&%$#(*&^' ING BEAST IS WAITING FOR ME WHEN I GET HOME I WISH I KNEW WHAT TO TELL YOU FOR SOME WORDS OF ENCOURAGEMENT.... I AS WELL AS YOU AND PROBABLYMOST OTHERS ON PB KNOW WAAAAAAY TO MUCH ABOUT THESE DAMN PSYCH MEDS THAT JUST DON'T SEEM TO BE DOING S***. ANYHOW JUST A RANT .. KEEP HANGIN ON, THATS ALL I CAN DO OR ANYBODY FOR THAT MATTER!! SORRY ABOUT THE GOOOFY TYPING (UPPER AND LOWER CASE ) BUT YA KNOW SOMETIMES IT'S JUST TOOOO MUCH ENERGY TO DO IT "PROPERLY"
THIS DEPRESSION CRAP SEEMS LIKE IT'S SUCKING THE LIFE OUT OF US!! DON'T WANT TO BUM YOU OUT ANYMORE THAN YOU ALREADY ARE - I JUST FELT COMPELLED TO SAY HI AND GIVE YOU SOME ENCOURAGEMENT THE RIGHT COMBO OF MEDS JUST HAS TO BE OUT THERE! I SERIOUSLY AM GETTING CLOSER EVERY DAY TO ASKING FOR ECT... AGAIN ...!
ANY HOW RANT OVER; HANG TOUGH PAL
Snapper
Posted by sl on March 15, 2004, at 19:13:36
In reply to Re: IS THIS SAFE?, posted by crazychickuk on March 13, 2004, at 18:21:49
I believe it's safe enuf as long as you drink a ton of water and take all the recommended vitamins. Otherwise you can damage your kidneys and body.
I have a couple suggestions that will help you ease into the lifestyle. You can do them before you try the induction diet and see if they help enuf.NO MORE WHITE BREAD! Replace all white bread with multi-grain or 100% whole wheat. If you can get it from a local bakery or market where you can talk to the maker and make sure there's no white flour in it, that's best. (I use a bread machine and make my own, with the machine it isn't that hard and I know what's in it!)
NO MORE WHITE noodles or rice. Switch your white pasta for green "spinach" pasta or whole wheat (green works best for me). Switch your white rice for brown, regular non-minute-rice is best.
Switch most or all sugar for Splenda! It cooks, it bakes, it's great in drinks, but it doesn't digest.
Diet sodas! I recommend Diet Rite if you're a sugar-soda drinker, the splenda in diet rite makes it much sweeter than regular diet sodas.
These changes are my normal diet these days. Certain treats throw me into a nasty mood, some put me to sleep or make me mentally-fuzzy, some just make me sick to my stomach or twitchy (cuz I'm not used to the sugar anymore).
It really makes a big difference for me, and as often as not when I get really sad I know why it happened.OH and get plenty of sleep!!! 7-8 hrs minimum!!
Try this stuff....I bet it helps, and if nothing else it helps get you into the mode you'll need to be in to keep the weight off. :)
Posted by crazychickuk on March 16, 2004, at 2:32:22
In reply to Re: IS THIS SAFE?, posted by sl on March 15, 2004, at 19:13:36
Cheers Guys, but i am allready at my induction no bread, pasta, potatoes CRISPS MWAAAAAAAHHHH ....lol i am gonna do this, i am gonna do this..
thanx again i will keep you all posted...Love from your friend Donna
Posted by joebob on March 16, 2004, at 9:27:18
In reply to Re: IS THIS SAFE?, posted by crazychickuk on March 16, 2004, at 2:32:22
Posted by crazychickuk on March 16, 2004, at 9:28:35
In reply to be sure to add some fish oils to your diet (nm) » crazychickuk, posted by joebob on March 16, 2004, at 9:27:18
Posted by sl on March 16, 2004, at 18:59:26
In reply to Re: IS THIS SAFE?, posted by crazychickuk on March 16, 2004, at 2:32:22
Wow you just SOUND like you have much more hope than you did before! That's great!
I'd be very interested to hear if it helps your energy level and/or mood, as well as your weight. :)
Posted by crazychickuk on March 17, 2004, at 3:52:11
In reply to Re: IS THIS SAFE?, posted by sl on March 16, 2004, at 18:59:26
GO for it, get the atkins book READ IT !! the orange book, revolution one only about £6 which is roughly $11 it is so worth it.. cut your carbs... which carbs are bad for you... carbs is what makes the brain foggy, its all in the book, i have been more mentally alert since doing this.. omega fish oils etc flax seed etc helps depression and anxiety and especially bioplar.... do a search on it and you will see many people posting about it on other boards.. i used google for my search.. and basic 3 vitamins have alot of vitamins in which apaprently some help towards weight loss... i am so looking forward to see how much weight i have lost... i am also not drinking cefeine no more just de caf coffee black its lovely... anyways worth a try ... see how you feel ? i am feeling better about myself allready..
Regards
donna
Posted by sl on March 17, 2004, at 9:20:28
In reply to Re: IS THIS SAFE? SL, posted by crazychickuk on March 17, 2004, at 3:52:11
Actually I've done Atkins. I am currently only about 15 lbs overweight and I can't afford to do Atkins diet for something so small.
I just know I felt better on it, and I want to know if others have a similar experience or it's just me.
A certain amount of your feeling good might be that you're finally able to DO something about a problem you felt overwhelmed by. Pretty cool huh? ;)
What I'm interested in hearing is if some of the symptoms you were medicated for in the first place get better.
I have this theory that while mental illness isn't exactly caused by diet, it's definitely WORSE for some people because of diet.
Posted by crazychickuk on March 17, 2004, at 9:44:49
In reply to Re: IS THIS SAFE? SL, posted by crazychickuk on March 17, 2004, at 3:52:11
I just feel better because i am eatig healthier.. i am full.... here is what i used to eat before
BREAKY: a huge bowl of cerial, about 3/4 pieces of toast dripping in butter.LUNCH: Ham salad roll with about 2/3 packets of crisps
DINNER: huge portions of lots of fatty foods such as chicken kievs, huge portion of potatoes, Or i would have a huge portion of pasta with tomatoes and a hole garlic bread to myself...
Then i would pick out on sweets, chocholate and i must say atleast 5 bags of crisps in an evening... now i dont get hungry i eat
boiled egg, bacon, for breaky..
chicken lettuce and mayo for lunch
and steak/lamb chops/pork chops with 2 cup fulls of veg including green beans and muchrooms... with some melted cheese... and i am loosing weight... its great.. i take all my vitamins which i am so glad i started doing as i can feel that the omega is helping me with my anxiety... and i been drinking lots of water... i am so so so so glad to be doing this.. cutting the carbs is beating the buldge for me !!
Thanks
Donna
Posted by Dr. Bob on March 17, 2004, at 23:29:45
In reply to Re: IS THIS SAFE? SL, posted by crazychickuk on March 17, 2004, at 9:44:49
> I just feel better because i am eatig healthier.. i am full....
I'd like to redirect follow-ups regarding eating healthier to Psycho-Babble Health. Here's a link:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/health/20040303/msgs/325499.html
Thanks,
Bob
Posted by linkadge on March 18, 2004, at 17:19:25
In reply to Re: IS THIS SAFE? » linkadge, posted by snapper on March 14, 2004, at 19:38:15
I am doing a little bit better.
The effexor is seeming to help some.The jogging helps too. Thanks for the words
of encouragement. Sometimes when all you're
thinking about its medications and/or yourself
you forget about the human connection.Let me know how things go.
Linkadge
Posted by snapper on March 18, 2004, at 20:58:20
In reply to Snapper, posted by linkadge on March 18, 2004, at 17:19:25
hey Link whats up dude ?
I'm glad to hear your doing a little better!
You are so right about the human connection thing but when you feel so crappy from SE's or what ever it is that your feeling its SOOO hard to make that connection ...specially someone like me with lots of Sphobia and just overall general feelings of MALAISE !! I have so many physical concomitants that drive me absolutely MAAAAAAD about my Dep. and Anxiety that even when I do get out it's all I can do to even try to enjoy the mere fact of "getting outside" of our selves -- It's a B***H!!!
Keep hanging on pal thats all we can do for now I just DON'T see the "Other OPTION" [death!!!] as the solution!! at least not right now!! I used to at least enjoy life so it's probably still out there somewhere. I am TRYING TO LEAVE NO STONE UNTURNED TO FIND RELIEF FROM THIS MONSTER!!
thanks for the post !!
see ya
Snapper
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