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Posted by birdie-bird-bird on February 20, 2003, at 17:10:07
I have been trying everything for my anxiety, it is chronic, just started 4 months ago. i have weird thoughts that i am with strangers although i am among friends or family...hard to explain. i have constant butterflies for no apparent reason, and sometimes i am afraid to leave my house. i have tried lexapro, and paxil and they have only made the anxiety SKYROCKET to unbearable levels. this happens after a week of taking it. my dr. has put me on klonopin for a month to calm me down, which worked, but i can't be on that forever. he has recently put me on effexor xr hoping that the klonopin will keep me calm enough to handle the initial response. i have been taking it for 3 days at 37.5 mg. so far my anxiety has gotten worse again....i am getting VERY frustrated at these medicene's that are supposed to make you feel better, making me feel worse! how long do i stick with this?
FRUSTRATED and SCARED
Posted by male34 on February 20, 2003, at 18:20:26
In reply to ANXIETY!, posted by birdie-bird-bird on February 20, 2003, at 17:10:07
> I have been trying everything for my anxiety, it is chronic, just started 4 months ago. i have weird thoughts that i am with strangers although i am among friends or family...hard to explain. i have constant butterflies for no apparent reason, and sometimes i am afraid to leave my house. i have tried lexapro, and paxil and they have only made the anxiety SKYROCKET to unbearable levels. this happens after a week of taking it. my dr. has put me on klonopin for a month to calm me down, which worked, but i can't be on that forever. he has recently put me on effexor xr hoping that the klonopin will keep me calm enough to handle the initial response. i have been taking it for 3 days at 37.5 mg. so far my anxiety has gotten worse again....i am getting VERY frustrated at these medicene's that are supposed to make you feel better, making me feel worse! how long do i stick with this?
>
> FRUSTRATED and SCARED
********************relax my friendtrust me this is normal those wierd strange thoughts your having believe it or not are NORMAL, your obviously undre a lot of stress trauma etc.. your in a full blown anxiety state you let it get bad ,now when you take these medicines it pumpms you up with anxiety to help your brain fight the anxiety like the flu shot does ,but getting back to you these thoughts fears and anxiety will eat you up alive IF! you let it dont let it get up and get going keep busy keep your mind on anything but your anxiety , go around this site and look for all my write ups im MALE34,read them all ,im on lexapro 2 weeks now side effects stinks anxiety through the roof but it gets better, first ask your DR to give you something to ease these starting anxiety for example im on diazaplam (spelling?) its a calming medicine to get you through but heres a good site to help you http://www.algy.com/anxiety/files/tips.html
wite back if you need help,those scary thoughts arent realy your thoughts it your fear,not you dont worry ,please pray and exercise,dont quit,i believe in you my friend. MALE34
Posted by SBOATRN on February 20, 2003, at 18:21:19
In reply to ANXIETY!, posted by birdie-bird-bird on February 20, 2003, at 17:10:07
Klonopin can be used for a while. I have a doc who has been with me through it all... trying this and that !!! There is ALOT of negative information about benzos, but for some of us, they work really well and at pretty low doses over the "long" hall. There are post here that will attest to it's use without "problems". It's not a perfect drug... I don't believe there is one. It's has it's draw backs, but so far, it's the only thing that's REALLY worked for me. I may explore something else, but each time I entertain that idea, I remember the not nice times I had with a host of other meds. Everyone's different. Good Luck... anxiety is awful to deal with, I know !!!
Posted by birdie-bird-bird on February 20, 2003, at 18:39:37
In reply to Re: ANXIETY!, posted by male34 on February 20, 2003, at 18:20:26
> > I have been trying everything for my anxiety, it is chronic, just started 4 months ago. i have weird thoughts that i am with strangers although i am among friends or family...hard to explain. i have constant butterflies for no apparent reason, and sometimes i am afraid to leave my house. i have tried lexapro, and paxil and they have only made the anxiety SKYROCKET to unbearable levels. this happens after a week of taking it. my dr. has put me on klonopin for a month to calm me down, which worked, but i can't be on that forever. he has recently put me on effexor xr hoping that the klonopin will keep me calm enough to handle the initial response. i have been taking it for 3 days at 37.5 mg. so far my anxiety has gotten worse again....i am getting VERY frustrated at these medicene's that are supposed to make you feel better, making me feel worse! how long do i stick with this?
> >
> > FRUSTRATED and SCARED
> ********************relax my friendtrust me this is normal those wierd strange thoughts your having believe it or not are NORMAL, your obviously undre a lot of stress trauma etc.. your in a full blown anxiety state you let it get bad ,now when you take these medicines it pumpms you up with anxiety to help your brain fight the anxiety like the flu shot does ,but getting back to you these thoughts fears and anxiety will eat you up alive IF! you let it dont let it get up and get going keep busy keep your mind on anything but your anxiety , go around this site and look for all my write ups im MALE34,read them all ,im on lexapro 2 weeks now side effects stinks anxiety through the roof but it gets better, first ask your DR to give you something to ease these starting anxiety for example im on diazaplam (spelling?) its a calming medicine to get you through but heres a good site to help you http://www.algy.com/anxiety/files/tips.html
> wite back if you need help,those scary thoughts arent realy your thoughts it your fear,not you dont worry ,please pray and exercise,dont quit,i believe in you my friend. MALE34
>
>
thank you so much for your encouragement! i know that i need to just stick with it and that the initial anxiety is normal, but it's SO hard. sometimes i can't even leave the house. but soon it will pass hopefully, if this med is even the right one for me. the klonopin seems to take the edge off, but it wears off. i am a christian and pray everyday for god's grace and peace....now i'm just waiting. and i exercise a lot too. i thought i was a healthy person. it bums me out. but thanks :)
Posted by male34 on February 20, 2003, at 22:39:19
In reply to Re: ANXIETY!, posted by birdie-bird-bird on February 20, 2003, at 18:39:37
> > > I have been trying everything for my anxiety, it is chronic, just started 4 months ago. i have weird thoughts that i am with strangers although i am among friends or family...hard to explain. i have constant butterflies for no apparent reason, and sometimes i am afraid to leave my house. i have tried lexapro, and paxil and they have only made the anxiety SKYROCKET to unbearable levels. this happens after a week of taking it. my dr. has put me on klonopin for a month to calm me down, which worked, but i can't be on that forever. he has recently put me on effexor xr hoping that the klonopin will keep me calm enough to handle the initial response. i have been taking it for 3 days at 37.5 mg. so far my anxiety has gotten worse again....i am getting VERY frustrated at these medicene's that are supposed to make you feel better, making me feel worse! how long do i stick with this?
> > >
> > > FRUSTRATED and SCARED
> > ********************relax my friendtrust me this is normal those wierd strange thoughts your having believe it or not are NORMAL, your obviously undre a lot of stress trauma etc.. your in a full blown anxiety state you let it get bad ,now when you take these medicines it pumpms you up with anxiety to help your brain fight the anxiety like the flu shot does ,but getting back to you these thoughts fears and anxiety will eat you up alive IF! you let it dont let it get up and get going keep busy keep your mind on anything but your anxiety , go around this site and look for all my write ups im MALE34,read them all ,im on lexapro 2 weeks now side effects stinks anxiety through the roof but it gets better, first ask your DR to give you something to ease these starting anxiety for example im on diazaplam (spelling?) its a calming medicine to get you through but heres a good site to help you http://www.algy.com/anxiety/files/tips.html
> > wite back if you need help,those scary thoughts arent realy your thoughts it your fear,not you dont worry ,please pray and exercise,dont quit,i believe in you my friend. MALE34
> >
> >
> thank you so much for your encouragement! i know that i need to just stick with it and that the initial anxiety is normal, but it's SO hard. sometimes i can't even leave the house. but soon it will pass hopefully, if this med is even the right one for me. the klonopin seems to take the edge off, but it wears off. i am a christian and pray everyday for god's grace and peace....now i'm just waiting. and i exercise a lot too. i thought i was a healthy person. it bums me out. but thanks :)
> *************it will pass drink lots of water to hydrate the brain,and eat small meals throughout the day,b complex,calcium,magnese,b-1 very good extra,omega 3 fish oils,E (dry form),
get rest ,stay away from fearfull tv for now, enjoy happy things for a while,no suger caffine chocalate etc.. hope i helped ,bePOSITIVE,all the best,male34
Posted by viridis on February 20, 2003, at 23:55:03
In reply to ANXIETY!, posted by birdie-bird-bird on February 20, 2003, at 17:10:07
As SBOATRN said, you should be able to stay on Klonopin indefinitely if necessary (as long as your doctor will prescribe it). My psychiatrist has me on long-term K therapy and doesn't seem worried about it; the downside is that if you do discontinue, you'll need to do so gradually (just as you would with Effexor, SSRIs, etc.).
Benzos are safe, effective drugs for many, and some people take them for decades. I've discussed dependency issues and quitting K with my pdoc and he says sure, I can quit it -- but the anxiety will likely return. All things considered (and I have a fair bit of experience with various psychiatric meds) I think my mental and physical health is best served by sticking with Klonopin.
Chronic anxiety is hard on your system, and my experience with ADs etc. has been very negative. I feel much safer, saner, and healthier with benzos. The supposed dangers are vastly exaggerated in my opinion, and based on decades of objective study of these meds.
Posted by Rainee on February 21, 2003, at 0:49:45
In reply to Re: ANXIETY!, posted by viridis on February 20, 2003, at 23:55:03
I couldn't agree with you more.. Benzos really help me. So many docs won't give them out any more and I get afraid to ask. I did find an MD who would give then to me. It makes me feel like I'm doing something wrong.
Let them suffer with severe anxiety and see if they don't go running for a benzo!
I also take an SSRI so that helps alot too.
Years ago I had a doc put me on klonopin hot and heavy for 2 years and then rip me off of them it was the worst withdrawl I ever experienced and I had some mental addiction besides physical.. It was scary.. He labeled me an addict too on my charts.
after he was the one that controlled my prescriptions.
Aint that a laugh!
Posted by birdie-bird-bird on February 21, 2003, at 10:12:18
In reply to Re: ANXIETY!, posted by viridis on February 20, 2003, at 23:55:03
> As SBOATRN said, you should be able to stay on Klonopin indefinitely if necessary (as long as your doctor will prescribe it). My psychiatrist has me on long-term K therapy and doesn't seem worried about it; the downside is that if you do discontinue, you'll need to do so gradually (just as you would with Effexor, SSRIs, etc.).
>
> Benzos are safe, effective drugs for many, and some people take them for decades. I've discussed dependency issues and quitting K with my pdoc and he says sure, I can quit it -- but the anxiety will likely return. All things considered (and I have a fair bit of experience with various psychiatric meds) I think my mental and physical health is best served by sticking with Klonopin.
>
> Chronic anxiety is hard on your system, and my experience with ADs etc. has been very negative. I feel much safer, saner, and healthier with benzos. The supposed dangers are vastly exaggerated in my opinion, and based on decades of objective study of these meds.so how do you rid yourself of the anxiety for good then, i don't want to be on meds my whole life! counseling? does it really work?
Posted by birdie-bird-bird on February 21, 2003, at 10:14:09
In reply to Re: ANXIETY!, posted by male34 on February 20, 2003, at 22:39:19
> > > > I have been trying everything for my anxiety, it is chronic, just started 4 months ago. i have weird thoughts that i am with strangers although i am among friends or family...hard to explain. i have constant butterflies for no apparent reason, and sometimes i am afraid to leave my house. i have tried lexapro, and paxil and they have only made the anxiety SKYROCKET to unbearable levels. this happens after a week of taking it. my dr. has put me on klonopin for a month to calm me down, which worked, but i can't be on that forever. he has recently put me on effexor xr hoping that the klonopin will keep me calm enough to handle the initial response. i have been taking it for 3 days at 37.5 mg. so far my anxiety has gotten worse again....i am getting VERY frustrated at these medicene's that are supposed to make you feel better, making me feel worse! how long do i stick with this?
> > > >
> > > > FRUSTRATED and SCARED
> > > ********************relax my friendtrust me this is normal those wierd strange thoughts your having believe it or not are NORMAL, your obviously undre a lot of stress trauma etc.. your in a full blown anxiety state you let it get bad ,now when you take these medicines it pumpms you up with anxiety to help your brain fight the anxiety like the flu shot does ,but getting back to you these thoughts fears and anxiety will eat you up alive IF! you let it dont let it get up and get going keep busy keep your mind on anything but your anxiety , go around this site and look for all my write ups im MALE34,read them all ,im on lexapro 2 weeks now side effects stinks anxiety through the roof but it gets better, first ask your DR to give you something to ease these starting anxiety for example im on diazaplam (spelling?) its a calming medicine to get you through but heres a good site to help you http://www.algy.com/anxiety/files/tips.html
> > > wite back if you need help,those scary thoughts arent realy your thoughts it your fear,not you dont worry ,please pray and exercise,dont quit,i believe in you my friend. MALE34
> > >
> > >
> > thank you so much for your encouragement! i know that i need to just stick with it and that the initial anxiety is normal, but it's SO hard. sometimes i can't even leave the house. but soon it will pass hopefully, if this med is even the right one for me. the klonopin seems to take the edge off, but it wears off. i am a christian and pray everyday for god's grace and peace....now i'm just waiting. and i exercise a lot too. i thought i was a healthy person. it bums me out. but thanks :)
> > *************it will pass drink lots of water to hydrate the brain,and eat small meals throughout the day,b complex,calcium,magnese,b-1 very good extra,omega 3 fish oils,E (dry form),
> get rest ,stay away from fearfull tv for now, enjoy happy things for a while,no suger caffine chocalate etc.. hope i helped ,bePOSITIVE,all the best,male34
>
>so do you think that AD meds CURE anxiety? i just really want it to disappear forever, and never have to be on meds.
Posted by male34 on February 21, 2003, at 23:17:40
In reply to Re: ANXIETY!, posted by birdie-bird-bird on February 21, 2003, at 10:14:09
> > > > > I have been trying everything for my anxiety, it is chronic, just started 4 months ago. i have weird thoughts that i am with strangers although i am among friends or family...hard to explain. i have constant butterflies for no apparent reason, and sometimes i am afraid to leave my house. i have tried lexapro, and paxil and they have only made the anxiety SKYROCKET to unbearable levels. this happens after a week of taking it. my dr. has put me on klonopin for a month to calm me down, which worked, but i can't be on that forever. he has recently put me on effexor xr hoping that the klonopin will keep me calm enough to handle the initial response. i have been taking it for 3 days at 37.5 mg. so far my anxiety has gotten worse again....i am getting VERY frustrated at these medicene's that are supposed to make you feel better, making me feel worse! how long do i stick with this?
> > > > >
> > > > > FRUSTRATED and SCARED
> > > > ********************relax my friendtrust me this is normal those wierd strange thoughts your having believe it or not are NORMAL, your obviously undre a lot of stress trauma etc.. your in a full blown anxiety state you let it get bad ,now when you take these medicines it pumpms you up with anxiety to help your brain fight the anxiety like the flu shot does ,but getting back to you these thoughts fears and anxiety will eat you up alive IF! you let it dont let it get up and get going keep busy keep your mind on anything but your anxiety , go around this site and look for all my write ups im MALE34,read them all ,im on lexapro 2 weeks now side effects stinks anxiety through the roof but it gets better, first ask your DR to give you something to ease these starting anxiety for example im on diazaplam (spelling?) its a calming medicine to get you through but heres a good site to help you http://www.algy.com/anxiety/files/tips.html
> > > > wite back if you need help,those scary thoughts arent realy your thoughts it your fear,not you dont worry ,please pray and exercise,dont quit,i believe in you my friend. MALE34
> > > >
> > > >
> > > thank you so much for your encouragement! i know that i need to just stick with it and that the initial anxiety is normal, but it's SO hard. sometimes i can't even leave the house. but soon it will pass hopefully, if this med is even the right one for me. the klonopin seems to take the edge off, but it wears off. i am a christian and pray everyday for god's grace and peace....now i'm just waiting. and i exercise a lot too. i thought i was a healthy person. it bums me out. but thanks :)
> > > *************it will pass drink lots of water to hydrate the brain,and eat small meals throughout the day,b complex,calcium,magnese,b-1 very good extra,omega 3 fish oils,E (dry form),
> > get rest ,stay away from fearfull tv for now, enjoy happy things for a while,no suger caffine chocalate etc.. hope i helped ,bePOSITIVE,all the best,male34
> >
> >
>
> so do you think that AD meds CURE anxiety? i just really want it to disappear forever, and never have to be on meds.
> **************its a 2 way working street while the meds work we ourselves must work at it, it realy is only a nerve impulse thats all, you cant touch it see it,etc... progress your thoughts to what you are and will be not what could be, laugh it off and get strong you will control your anxiety in time ,your stronger than that tiny little nerve impulse (anxiety) ,forget it and move on TRUST me! practice thought progress dont lose it during a panic attack dont fight it the trick is let it fly by, say ya whatever you dont scare me anxiety,my point dont waste your time throw those thoughts out like the trash, trust me you can eventually beat this anxiety practice thought progress youll win in time , stay on meds till seratonin levels balance out and if you got to be on meds long so what if they work,goodluck
>
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