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Posted by Dr. Bob on April 18, 2009, at 13:36:26
In reply to Re: an opportunity » Dr. Bob, posted by fayeroe on April 18, 2009, at 10:53:59
> > And policy change isn't necessary for there to be fewer blocks. You can be the change you wish to see.
>
> thats not what we been talking about here....
> Boat sailed w/o ya Bob.......
>
> muffledThe policy boat can't sail without me, but the support boat can. But some posters may prefer to sail with me.
> we're missing the mark with you.
>
> I'm sorry.
>
> FayeroeThanks, that's a step forward. What mark do you feel you're missing?
Bob
Posted by fayeroe on April 18, 2009, at 14:25:36
In reply to Re: an opportunity, posted by Dr. Bob on April 18, 2009, at 13:36:26
> > > And policy change isn't necessary for there to be fewer blocks. You can be the change you wish to see.
> >
> > thats not what we been talking about here....
> > Boat sailed w/o ya Bob.......
> >
> > muffled
>
> The policy boat can't sail without me, but the support boat can. But some posters may prefer to sail with me.Policies that are inherently unfair won't be supported by some people. Hopefully you will grow to accept us.
>
> > we're missing the mark with you.
> >
> > I'm sorry.
> >
> > Fayeroe
>
> Thanks, that's a step forward. What mark do you feel you're missing?
>
> BobBob, this can be an ideal time for learning for you. You need to figure it out for yourself.
I don't feel that we're actually missing anything for us......you're missing what we've been trying to tell you. My remark could mean that when we've shot towards the target....it isn't hitting (you).There is a saying about people who might be a little dense about some things. "You wouldn't know it if it hit you in the ***." I know you're book smart but I don't think you're "heart" smart.
And I am going to tell you something. Today is the first game of the NBA playoffs. Cleveland is my favourite team because I love LeBron James. I am watching the game. My lost cat is home.I have more important things to do than piddle around here.
This is my last contribution to
this thread.Hear that noise? That is a coke can opening!
Have a great weekend and talk to your T. I bet you'll get some help on what we're trying to do here. :-)
p.s. you did miss the boat, you know! muffled got that right!
Fayeroe
Posted by Sigismund on April 18, 2009, at 15:26:07
In reply to Re: an opportunity, posted by Dr. Bob on April 18, 2009, at 10:33:45
>The point of this site is for posters to support each other. It seems to me a straightforward way of supporting each other would be to help each other avoid being blocked. But as we're seeing, there are other dynamics at work.
Really? Oh my goodness!
Posted by raisinb on April 18, 2009, at 17:57:38
In reply to Re: an opportunity, posted by Dr. Bob on April 18, 2009, at 10:33:45
"The point of this site is for posters to support each other. It seems to me a straightforward way of supporting each other would be to help each other avoid being blocked"
Yes, to #1. And it looks to me--on the boards I visit--posters are supporting each other heroically. Which is wonderful.
However...#2 doesn't logically follow. It only works when you assume everyone fundamentally agrees with the policies being enforced. When that isn't the case, it may feel to posters as if they're facing a common dilemma of the powerless--like Indians recruited to help the British Raj by keeping their fellow Indians in line. Or the Jews running factories and work camps under the Nazis (obviously these comparisons are inflated, but they're the ones I could think of to explain the point I was trying to make).
I think the problem with the logic here is that helping you enforce your policies is not "supporting" those who run afoul of them. Empathy, communication, reassurance, and checking in on other posters is what constitutes support. Looks like we are all doing that all the time, which is why I love Babble.
I think we're all looking for the same thing here--fewer missing loved ones and a safer Babble (since I don't know what's in your head, I am assuming a charitable interpretation). There is a good deal of finger-pointing going on on both sides of this conflict, and I do think individual posters need to take responsibility for their own actions.
However, greater power=greater responsibility. Turning the responsibility for resolving a conflict over to the less powerful--while retaining the power--is, as I said, a highly fishy move.
Posted by muffled on April 18, 2009, at 18:02:54
In reply to Re: an opportunity, posted by Dr. Bob on April 18, 2009, at 13:36:26
<The policy boat can't sail without me, but the support boat can. But some posters may prefer to sail with me.
*The support boat keeps getting shot at by the policy boat. We tried to negotiate w/it, to no avail, they wouldn't listen. I can't stand the carnage. I used to try and shoot back at the policy boat, but then there was more fighting.
So I grabbed a life jacket and jumped ship, I swam for shore. It was a hard swim, but I made it.
I still cheer for the supporters, but from a distance. There's more lifejackets, so they can swim to shore too.
Some don't seem to mind the shots fired. So they stay.
Me, I need a more peaceful place.
Though I miss my friends.
M
PS, and FWIW, the captain of the policy boat seems to go missing from time to time.....noone on his boat knows where he goes? So maybe the policy boat don't saail w/o you bob, you own the boat, but I bet sometimes your crew would like to know where the heck you are when storms arise...
So captain Bob, I prefer not to sail on your boat. I don't like the rules aboard your ship. Too tough.
On the support boat, we don't keelhaul or walk the plank.
Mebbe we snarl some, or send a mate off to their cabin to cool down for a bit, but thats bout it.
Jesus talked in parables alot.
Smart guy.
M
Posted by muffled on April 18, 2009, at 18:05:53
In reply to boating on babble, posted by muffled on April 18, 2009, at 18:02:54
on my eeepc.
wasn't ready to post.
but its good enuf.
nice day.
goto go out to my yard.
best wishes to all.
you too bob, even though I don't wanna go on your boat don't mean I don't like you or think you a bad person.
happy sailing.
;-)
M
Posted by Sigismund on April 18, 2009, at 18:14:54
In reply to Re: an opportunity » Dr. Bob, posted by raisinb on April 18, 2009, at 17:57:38
>However...#2 doesn't logically follow. It only works when you assume everyone fundamentally agrees with the policies being enforced.
Yes, and apart from that it's just not possible.
If someone writes to me and asks my opinion about a post I will give it. But people I don't know well, and people I do as well, are not going to take kindly to me saying 'I think you should do this', as if I really know anyway.
There is a very limited influence we have on each other at any one time.
Posted by Sigismund on April 18, 2009, at 18:16:58
In reply to boating on babble, posted by muffled on April 18, 2009, at 18:02:54
>The support boat keeps getting shot at by the policy boat. We tried to negotiate w/it, to no avail, they wouldn't listen. I can't stand the carnage. I used to try and shoot back at the policy boat, but then there was more fighting.
So I grabbed a life jacket and jumped ship, I swam for shore. It was a hard swim, but I made it.Bless you, Muffled.
That was wonderful.
Posted by rskontos on April 19, 2009, at 17:07:35
In reply to Re: This speaks so much. in case you missed it., posted by muffled on April 13, 2009, at 11:28:45
>>Yet expressing his annoyance in a way that fits w/in the guidelines...?
LOL, uh oh! My less charitable self is thinking vindictively HA! NOW maybe he knows how it feels...
whilst my kind self feels very guilty...
Sigh.>>Hey Muffled,
While I agree with almost all you said, I felt I had to point out that Dr. Bob called us a herd. I don't think that is civil yet he did not rephrase it like he asks us all the time. To rephrase, to be civil. I am not a cow or a horse or any other animal that is part of a herd. With all my issues, I would freak out in a herd.
anyway, I feel this discussion with Dr, Bob has degraded into a weirdness thing that is quite weird. This 'game" crap is another part of said weirdness. I just can't think of any thing else to call it but weird or a freak show.
My t is a p-doc and I don't think he would every digress to this point.
JMHO
rsk
ps I do watch Tara
Posted by muffled on April 19, 2009, at 18:22:24
In reply to Re: This speaks so much. in case you missed it. » muffled, posted by rskontos on April 19, 2009, at 17:07:35
Thx Sigismund :-)
Hey RSK.
I been here awhile, and everyonce in awhile, I think, OK, this is the time, Bob is receptive to change......but then..... he is still the same old Bob.
After I rediscover this reality, then I just get silly, and don't take this admin stuff too seriously, cuz it'll just drag you down.
So ya, I just kinda get into the amusement factor, cuz no true discussion is possible.
It used to weird me out too, but now , like I say, the familiarity is vaguely comforting in some twisted way.
Bob is the same.
Annoying as all hell, but not such a bad person really.
I accept him for who he is.
Thats why I can't really be here at babble. Cuz Bob is Bob, and thats OK, but I just can't be here cuz of that. I can't get involved or invested, cuz this thread would make me mental if so. But because I am not invested, I can take a step back, not get fussed. I can enjoy the comfort of the familiar.
As for Tara, I was deeply dissapointed in that show. Dissociation aside, its just a crap show, and the diss part is a joke.
Oh well.
Allus nice to see you RSK, and try not to get caught up in this admin stuff.
Take care, hope you doing OK.
Muffled
Posted by Sigismund on April 19, 2009, at 19:03:16
In reply to boating on babble, posted by muffled on April 18, 2009, at 18:02:54
Perhaps the paradigm comes from US peace keeping missions?
Posted by rskontos on April 19, 2009, at 19:21:15
In reply to Re: an opportunity » Dr. Bob, posted by raisinb on April 18, 2009, at 17:57:38
>>I think we're all looking for the same thing here--fewer missing loved ones and a safer Babble (since I don't know what's in your head, I am assuming a charitable interpretation). There is a good deal of finger-pointing going on on both sides of this conflict, and I do think individual posters need to take responsibility for their own actions.
However, greater power=greater responsibility. Turning the responsibility for resolving a conflict over to the less powerful--while retaining the power--is, as I said, a highly fishy move.>>>
Well said and a hearty Hear! Hear!.rsk
Posted by Dr. Bob on April 19, 2009, at 20:46:41
In reply to Re: an opportunity, posted by Sigismund on April 18, 2009, at 18:14:54
> Hopefully you will grow to accept us.
>
> FayeroeI understand that posters may want to feel accepted by me. I do accept all posters, but I think it's unlikely that I'll grow to accept uncivil posts. Is not blocking posters the way for me to show I accept them?
> the captain ... seems to go missing from time to time.....noone on his boat knows where he goes? ... I bet sometimes your crew would like to know where the heck you are when storms arise...
>
> MI understand wanting a captain, especially in a storm. I'm sorry I've left you all to weather some previous storms by yourselves. But I'm here now. But a captain can't do much by himself.
> > The point of this site is for posters to support each other. It seems to me a straightforward way of supporting each other would be to help each other avoid being blocked.
>
> #2 doesn't logically follow. It only works when you assume everyone fundamentally agrees with the policies being enforced. When that isn't the case, it may feel to posters as if they're facing a common dilemma of the powerless
>
> I think the problem with the logic here is that helping you enforce your policies is not "supporting" those who run afoul of them. Empathy, communication, reassurance, and checking in on other posters is what constitutes support. Looks like we are all doing that all the time, which is why I love Babble.
>
> I think we're all looking for the same thing here--fewer missing loved ones and a safer Babble (since I don't know what's in your head, I am assuming a charitable interpretation). ... I do think individual posters need to take responsibility for their own actions.
>
> raisinbYou're right, supporting someone who runs afoul of my policies by helping them avoid a block afterwards doesn't help me enforce those policies. Helping them not run afoul of them in the first place would, but helping them avoid a block afterwards just means one fewer missing loved one.
I'm glad you feel supported and love it here. Thanks for believing that I'd also like fewer blocked posters and a safer Babble.
> greater power=greater responsibility. Turning the responsibility for resolving a conflict over to the less powerful--while retaining the power--is, as I said, a highly fishy move.
>
> raisinb> I can't stand the carnage. I used to try and shoot back at the policy boat, but then there was more fighting.
> Me, I need a more peaceful place.
>
> Mebbe we snarl some, or send a mate off to their cabin to cool down for a bit, but thats bout it.
>
> M> If someone writes to me and asks my opinion about a post I will give it. But people I don't know well, and people I do as well, are not going to take kindly to me saying 'I think you should do this', as if I really know anyway.
>
> There is a very limited influence we have on each other at any one time.
>
> SigismundMebbe I snarl some, or send posters off to their cabins to cool down for a bit, or longer, but that's about it.
I wonder if some posters may be attached (not by choice, of course) to feelings of powerlessness. Maybe the idea that they actually have some power is what seems fishy.
Empathy, communication, reassurance, and checking in give you influence (a form of power). As Sigismund said before, there are different ways of negotiating a response in such a way as to make it possible. I thought posters helped influence Verne to apologize, and I'm glad he's still on the boat. More shooting means less peace. More apologies means fewer blocks and more peace.
> I felt I had to point out that Dr. Bob called us a herd. I don't think that is civil yet he did not rephrase it like he asks us all the time. To rephrase, to be civil. I am not a cow or a horse or any other animal that is part of a herd. With all my issues, I would freak out in a herd.
>
> rskSorry, I didn't mean to imply that anyone was a cow or a horse or anything like that. Mob mentality came up, and it's a form of herd behavior, which can refer to the behavior of people as well as animals:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_behavior
The "herd" here seems to be willing to let Fayeroe fall overboard. But maybe people are trying to support her behind the scenes. I hope so.
Bob
Posted by muffled on April 19, 2009, at 23:14:54
In reply to Re: an opportunity, posted by Dr. Bob on April 19, 2009, at 20:46:41
> I understand that posters may want to feel accepted by me. I do accept all posters, but I think it's unlikely that I'll grow to accept uncivil posts. Is not blocking posters the way for me to show I accept them?
dare I?, oh why not. Keeps me outta trouble IRL I suppose.
Hmmmm, well, sometimes, in the name of chartitablness and acceptance, we can *first* warn, immediately B4 punish(like 24 hrs) THEN if no satisfaction, perhaps a SHORT block.
This has been one of the major points here....that the blocks are too long. Too punitive. Too hurtful.
"Is not blocking posters the way for me to show I accept them?", well blocking posters, effectively banishing them for WEEKS, MONTHS at a time isn't exactly accepting behaviour....I expect it FEELS more like 'F off you disgusting person'... :-( However, I speak for myself...how it feels...
Now that being said...I have noticed that there HAS been a seeming reduction in numbers of blocks. For awhile there it was a bit silly! Do you remember me being blocked for f*rt????? Sigh... Anyhow, those days are past, and I think there HAS been improvement.
> I understand wanting a captain, especially in a storm. I'm sorry I've left you all to weather some previous storms by yourselves. But I'm here now. But a captain can't do much by himself.Thank you for the apology. Your here now....what does that mean? I admit, with the passing of time, and observations on other internet boards, I have had some changes of heart re: proceedures.
> > > The point of this site is for posters to support each other. It seems to me a straightforward way of supporting each other would be to help each other avoid being blocked.
Yes....up to a point. Others have been making wonderful observations here.
I am also assuming my fellow posters have a brain. Yes, sometimes its good to hint, other times I am aware they are making a point, and who am I to interfere w/them?> You're right, supporting someone who runs afoul of my policies by helping them avoid a block afterwards doesn't help me enforce those policies. Helping them not run afoul of them in the first place would, but helping them avoid a block afterwards just means one fewer missing loved one.
???
Yes, I sgree, helping others know the rules would be good....if they were consistant....if they made sense....
> I'm glad you feel supported and love it here. Thanks for believing that I'd also like fewer blocked posters and a safer Babble.Awwwww, thats so sweet...
> Mebbe I snarl some, or send posters off to their cabins to cool down for a bit, or longer, but that's about it.NO!!!! That is the POINT!!!!! You send them off for TOO LONG. Good gravy, a week is *plenty* unless it is just totally our of line...like *extreeme ongoing* cases...
> I wonder if some posters may be attached (not by choice, of course) to feelings of powerlessness. Maybe the idea that they actually have some power is what seems fishy.
Oh dude, interesting thing to ponder...but not me...I am USED to power man....so ya, mebbe you right, pwerlessness pisses me off, but ONLY because I see injustice(IMHO). Other than that I don't give a rats *ss.
> Empathy, communication, reassurance, and checking in give you influence (a form of power). As Sigismund said before, there are different ways of negotiating a response in such a way as to make it possible. I thought posters helped influence Verne to apologize, and I'm glad he's still on the boat. More shooting means less peace. More apologies means fewer blocks and more peace.
Verne is a big boy. He apologized cuz HE wanted to AND has done in the past. MAYBE we influenced him, maybe not.
Less shooting is good BUT, one thing that seems intrinsic to therapy, is that when there ARE breakdowns, some of the greatest gains are made by REPAIR of the relationship. If you block for weeks at a time, the window of opportunity for repair is lost.
Conflict AND a chance for repair = growth...> The "herd" here seems to be willing to let Fayeroe fall overboard. But maybe people are trying to support her behind the scenes. I hope so.
OMG. 'F'you Bob, I mean seriouly Bob, F YOU!
That is a seriously *SSH*L* comment on your part.
It makes me SOOOOOO FRIKKEN MAD.
Dude, you think we not care bout Pat??? Of COURSE we do, DUUUUUHHHHHH.
I also know, that she is a smart , intelligent woman, who knows the rules here, who knows what is what.
She is NOT STUPID.
Sh*t.
This where you really don't get it do you?
I don't wanto make you feel bad, I want to help you to understand. And I have tried B4, but you just don't get it :( For that I am sad. Cuz i think you ARE trying....Hey WTF, I am willing to work w/ya Bob....LOL. 100.00/hr, if you wanna come up to canada, I will be your T!
HA!Everyboddys got their 'stuff', you too Bob, thats OK, but manoman, you surely make me nuts from time to time.
LOL! Mebbe cuz I care hey?
:-0!
Take care,
Muffled
Posted by Sigismund on April 20, 2009, at 5:28:06
In reply to Re: an opportunity, posted by Dr. Bob on April 19, 2009, at 20:46:41
>The "herd" here seems to be willing to let Fayeroe fall overboard.
What's that about?
Posted by fayeroe on April 20, 2009, at 9:22:30
In reply to Re: an opportunity, posted by Dr. Bob on April 19, 2009, at 20:46:41
> > Hopefully you will grow to accept us.
> >
> > Fayeroe
>
> I understand that posters may want to feel accepted by me. I do accept all posters, but I think it's unlikely that I'll grow to accept uncivil posts. Is not blocking posters the way for me to show I accept them?I meant that you would grow to accept the fact that some people don't agree with you. Grow to accept that everyone isn't going to do things that we don't think is productive to us or the site.
>
> > the captain ... seems to go missing from time to time.....noone on his boat knows where he goes? ... I bet sometimes your crew would like to know where the heck you are when storms arise...
> >
> > M
>
> I understand wanting a captain, especially in a storm. I'm sorry I've left you all to weather some previous storms by yourselves. But I'm here now. But a captain can't do much by himself.
>
> > > The point of this site is for posters to support each other. It seems to me a straightforward way of supporting each other would be to help each other avoid being blocked.
> >
> > #2 doesn't logically follow. It only works when you assume everyone fundamentally agrees with the policies being enforced. When that isn't the case, it may feel to posters as if they're facing a common dilemma of the powerless
> >
> > I think the problem with the logic here is that helping you enforce your policies is not "supporting" those who run afoul of them. Empathy, communication, reassurance, and checking in on other posters is what constitutes support. Looks like we are all doing that all the time, which is why I love Babble.
> >
> > I think we're all looking for the same thing here--fewer missing loved ones and a safer Babble (since I don't know what's in your head, I am assuming a charitable interpretation). ... I do think individual posters need to take responsibility for their own actions.
> >
> > raisinb
>
> You're right, supporting someone who runs afoul of my policies by helping them avoid a block afterwards doesn't help me enforce those policies. Helping them not run afoul of them in the first place would, but helping them avoid a block afterwards just means one fewer missing loved one.Why did you ask us so many times to get Verne and Jade to apologize to you? After the fact..
>
> I'm glad you feel supported and love it here. Thanks for believing that I'd also like fewer blocked posters and a safer Babble.
>
> > greater power=greater responsibility. Turning the responsibility for resolving a conflict over to the less powerful--while retaining the power--is, as I said, a highly fishy move.
> >
> > raisinb
>
> > I can't stand the carnage. I used to try and shoot back at the policy boat, but then there was more fighting.
> > Me, I need a more peaceful place.
> >
> > Mebbe we snarl some, or send a mate off to their cabin to cool down for a bit, but thats bout it.
> >
> > M
>
> > If someone writes to me and asks my opinion about a post I will give it. But people I don't know well, and people I do as well, are not going to take kindly to me saying 'I think you should do this', as if I really know anyway.
> >
> > There is a very limited influence we have on each other at any one time.
> >
> > Sigismund
>
> Mebbe I snarl some, or send posters off to their cabins to cool down for a bit, or longer, but that's about it.
>
> I wonder if some posters may be attached (not by choice, of course) to feelings of powerlessness. Maybe the idea that they actually have some power is what seems fishy.Huh?
>
> Empathy, communication, reassurance, and checking in give you influence (a form of power). As Sigismund said before, there are different ways of negotiating a response in such a way as to make it possible. I thought posters helped influence Verne to apologize, and I'm glad he's still on the boat. More shooting means less peace. More apologies means fewer blocks and more peace.Verne sobered up. And according to him didn't remember a lot of what he had said. I am guessing that he read the thread and was sorry that he wrote what he did.
>
> > I felt I had to point out that Dr. Bob called us a herd. I don't think that is civil yet he did not rephrase it like he asks us all the time. To rephrase, to be civil. I am not a cow or a horse or any other animal that is part of a herd. With all my issues, I would freak out in a herd.
> >
> > rsk
>
> Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that anyone was a cow or a horse or anything like that. Mob mentality came up, and it's a form of herd behavior, which can refer to the behavior of people as well as animals:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_behavior.........Oh lord.....
>
> The "herd" here seems to be willing to let Fayeroe fall overboard. But maybe people are trying to support her behind the scenes. I hope so.I haven't asked for any support.
So.....you're thinking that you will let this drag on and THEN block me? Games, Bob, games. My last block was two weeks so if you multiply that by the stars in the west and deduct 7% for a little rain......I'll serve__________?
Fayeroe
>
> Bob
Posted by fayeroe on April 20, 2009, at 13:06:42
In reply to Re: an opportunity » Dr. Bob, posted by fayeroe on April 20, 2009, at 9:22:30
I am blocking myself for four (4) weeks.
I need to clean my house.
Fayeroe
Posted by muffled on April 20, 2009, at 13:10:59
In reply to Re: an opportunity » Dr. Bob, posted by fayeroe on April 20, 2009, at 9:22:30
oh man, my house is terrible.....
and its yard work time...
busy.
Hope you ok.
You a good egg OK.
((((((((((pat)))))))))))
Muffled
Posted by muffled on April 20, 2009, at 13:13:21
In reply to ((((Fayroe)))))), posted by muffled on April 20, 2009, at 13:10:59
HOW TO CLEAN THE HOUSE
1. Open a new folder on your PC ....
2. Name it 'Housework.'3. Send it to the Recycle Bin.
4. Empty the Recycle Bin.
5. Your PC will ask you,
***'Are you sure you want to delete Housework permanently?'**** :-)
6. Calmly answer, 'Yes' and press mouse button firmly ...
7. Feel better?
Works for me!
ROFL!!!! someone sent this to me!
Posted by Sigismund on April 20, 2009, at 14:33:09
In reply to Re: an opportunity » Dr. Bob, posted by fayeroe on April 20, 2009, at 9:22:30
So Bob had decided to re-involve himself with Babble?
Perhaps Bob could find a way to look at some of the people he has blocked more charitably.
Capricious blocks (zazenducke) inevitably lead to resentment.
Posted by rskontos on April 20, 2009, at 19:18:28
In reply to Re: an opportunity, posted by Dr. Bob on April 19, 2009, at 20:46:41
>>>The "herd" here seems to be willing to let Fayeroe fall overboard. But maybe people are trying to support her behind the scenes. I hope so.>>>>
This baffles me. How is Fayeroe falling overboard?
And another thing, Dr. Bob you said:>>understand that posters may want to feel accepted by me. I do accept all posters, but I think it's unlikely that I'll grow to accept uncivil posts. understand that posters may want to feel accepted by me. I do accept all posters, but I think it's unlikely that I'll grow to accept uncivil posts. Is not blocking posters the way for me to show I accept them?
Something I have noticed is this appears to be the first time you have taken exception to a Babbler being uncivil to you. You asked Verne to apologize to you, this I don't remember ever happening before. You always seemed ok with uncivility directed at you but now the rules seemed to change when we weren't looking. Just my observation.
>>>Is not blocking posters the way for me to show I accept them?
If you mean to show acceptance you would limit blocks to a REASONABLE time, the answer is YES!
rsk
Posted by rskontos on April 20, 2009, at 19:23:23
In reply to housework, posted by muffled on April 20, 2009, at 13:13:21
OH MY GOD,
muffled I nearly fell off my chair laughing.
I plan to do that today once and for all so I can FORGET that my house needs to be cleaned!!
I wonder if we can put Dr. Bob in that delete file.
rsk
Posted by Sigismund on April 20, 2009, at 19:29:24
In reply to Re: an opportunity » Dr. Bob, posted by rskontos on April 20, 2009, at 19:18:28
For reasons not clear to me, some people get the chance to apologise and some do not.
Posted by zenhussy on April 20, 2009, at 19:38:15
In reply to Re: an opportunity » rskontos, posted by Sigismund on April 20, 2009, at 19:29:24
Posted by Sigismund on April 20, 2009, at 19:50:07
In reply to yes.very confusing as to which folk are 'some ppl' (nm) » Sigismund, posted by zenhussy on April 20, 2009, at 19:38:15
Well, one wouldn't expect some people to be given the chance, some slates taking longer to clean and all, so it's not entirely caprice.
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