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Re: mirtazapine/remeron updates?

Posted by musky on April 13, 2006, at 1:37:08

In reply to Re: mirtazapine/remeron updates? » musky, posted by SLS on April 12, 2006, at 16:03:41

>Thanks for your input again, but it seems that they are always giving something a name of some sort.. so many disorders.. I feel we are Over diagnosed.
As for the brain , it is made up of neuronal cells which then have receptors which participate in the communication of the cells (very roughly speaking). Thoughts are just chemical reactions and energy , but we get our thoughts from within our minds. Every thing that goes on in the brain is a chemical reaction, just like the rest of the body.. But the tricky part is how much is controlled and how much is random or involuntary.
From what i have researched we dont give enough credit to mind over matter issues.
Even Cancer patients can literally disolve the tumor by pure positive thinking and visulization techniques.
Not to say everyone can cure themselves, that wouldnt be totally realistic. But we most certainly can play a huge role in recovery and healing on our own.
For example if someone tells you often enough as a child that you are stupid,, you will eventually believe it... just like praising a child will give them self confidence.. again its all in the way we think... therefore I think the same theory applies to someone who is constantly told that they "need meds to stay well" and have MDD , then they will too believe it both conciously and subconciously.
Dont get me wrong I am not saying there is no such thing as depression and anxiety,, these truly are real conditions.. the question is how do we treat effectively and safely.. to me treating and getting at the root cause are two different things.
Our doctors in Western medicine are real good at just treating the symptoms ,, not the cause..
We need to treat the whole being not just a part.
We are a human body , not just a brain, or other part.
I think that if we are physically , spirtually and emotionally well, then we are balanced.
so many times i hear people saying there depresssed because of this or that etc. etc.
What I think we need to do is to NOT make excuses for why we are depressed.. We need to change how we react to our life's issues .
Just as an alcoholic has every excuse in the book to justify a drink,, we tend to fall into this trap when we beat up on ourselves saying.. im depressed , im depressed. INstead of saying something like.. im depressed but so what,, its just thoughts and I can uncreate them just as easily as i create them.
If we believe that we have no control of our brain,, then we make the trap for ourselves and become Victims of mental illness.
We fill ourselves with self pity which will keep us stuck in this mood.
So I think we need to just get tough on ourselves , and yes I know its easier said than done.
I too have and still get this way , but I am learning to OVERCOME my anxiety or depressive state with changing my attitude.
My own personal experience with meds is that they caused a depressive state in me and more anxiety.
Because before i ever took any of these drugs I never ever experienced depression,wierd thoughts , panic attacks, etc.
So this is all I have to go on... and all along I have never felt myself on this drug or others for that matter.

Sorry to ramble yet again.. Im trying not to be biased, and from all the postings i have read.. no one seems to be happy on these meds.. and why take something we know so little about? really

Good luck with your fight as well.

Are you still on Remeron?


Musky


MDD is the acronym most often used in medical literature to indicate Major Depressive Disorder.
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> Consider yourself fortunate that you can so easily regulate your affect and cognition.
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> This isn't really the venue for a debate regarding the phenomenology of depression.
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> The brain determines the mind as the mind sculpts the brain.
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> That pretty much sums up psychobiology.
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> I hope you continue to have success maintaining your mental health.
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> - Scott


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