Posted by Paulbwell on April 15, 2005, at 17:29:38
In reply to Roth : Opiates, posted by hadleigh71 on April 15, 2005, at 13:53:56
> Thank you for your time Dr.Roth and to Dr.Bob for supporting this forum.
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> I'm quite surprised with all the discussion that normally takes place here in regards to opiates that no one has chimed in with the $64,000 question.
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> I understand Dr.Bob's and the mental health communities position on the use of opiates as their addiction potential is immense and most with mental health issuses have problems with compliance. I have also read Dr.Bob's position as to why they shouldn't be used :
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> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20010411/msgs/59892.html
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> Let me begin by stating I am currently taking Zoloft 50 mg and Klonopin 1 mg for social anxiety and depression along with a small dose of Sam-e 200 mg and have had a good response to these medications, I also walk daily with this giving me much benefit. I happened into opiates after my Gall Bladder surgery (Vicodin) and noticed an immediate improvement in my outlook and social functioning after a weeks worth of useage and the euphoria wore off, I also have migraines and found they helped as well and have been taking two a day (1/2 4 X day) for the last two years. I haven't needed to increase doseage to keep the therapeutic effect. I am doing much better than I was before I started but still slip back into old patterns irregardless. Vicodin is by no means the silver bullet as its addition has only improved my overall response slightly. I would like to add before Vicodin I was actively suicidal and that has now been tamed and caged but has not completely left me as I know it never will.
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> My question to you is should they have a place in mental health treatment or is their addiction potential too enormous. Is there any interest in the field considering how many get such a positive response from them. I know it seems silly to ask an addiction specialist this question but you must be a special breed to be willing to come here and help up this way.
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> Thank youLook at the amount of people taking Opi's either prescribed or not and the many xxxx sites selling Hydrocodone etc... this must say something about the help these compounds give many.
Check out Psycho Babble main, there are several using Hydro etc, including, Jerrympls who has had sustained 5 months+ on Hydro as part of med treatment for TRD with great success and no tolerance, and continues to function well, job socially, etc.
Opiates help so many Psych Ails, Docs are wary, because of the range of disorders and ranges of meds designed to be put to use in that class of disorders mentality, Cure alls are too non-scientific to scientists and Med professionals.
I know many who have benefited from medical Opi use, when other Meds have failed them.
Why do most visit a PsychDoc?, because they don't fell ok?, Opi's help this rapidly-hence the stigma,
Newer is not-always better. I am convinced endrogenous Endorphin dysfunction DOES play a part in Psych disorders.
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