Posted by Geno on July 18, 2004, at 0:45:17
In reply to Re: Buprenorphine - Thanks! And..., posted by bupe_fan on May 4, 2004, at 22:21:48
hi, my name is geno, i just found this forum on psychobabble. Seems very iteresting, then i seen buprenorphine and i must add a few comments.
Iv been on suboxone for 4 months now.Almost 5 in august. I started at 3 8mg a day. I told my doc i did a bit more that i was doing, but basically my average use was 6 bags of h intranasally or 6 oxy 40s a day for the last 6 months.
After taking 8mg, i felt all withdrawls subside afer 1 hr. DId not feel high but normal. So for that month, i stayed on 24mg a day. I could have functioned well on 16mg, but mentally i thought i needed it. Now,to date, im perscribed 16mg daily. Here is where some bad experiences happened. I got some cravings and relapsed 2 times while on bup. I did not get high. I actually timed myself one time and it took approx 30hrs a minimum to feel a good bag. Anyway, for example, if i stopped my bup dose purposly to use, it would be at night, then the next day sleep all day, then the next night use. By the following day, which would be like 36 hr , id be starting to feel the dope again. Then i went on a binge for 2 weeks. I dont know why im sharing this, but im being honest, i did sell many of my pills just to get some h. or oxy. BUT i learned finally from my mistakes its not worth it.
I then found out that a buddy of mine has naltraxone implant, which blocks opiates. Well little ol smart me told him about bup and he said he wants to try it. well he got high from like 2 or 3 pills. Now hes wants bup so bad, hed pay 10 bucks a pill if so. Because naltraxone does not block burenorphine.
Anyway, i leaned my lesson, becuase i ran out of buprenorphine 7 days before my appt. I went through 6 days of hell. The withdrawls seemed worse than heroin or just as bad, but not as bad as oxys. Now i keep an exact list of how many i have and when my appt is. Im actually trying to stay/cut down to 8mg a day, which i know would work, because i havent done that many opiates in like 2 months ago when i relapsed.
Sometimes, i get a twinkling of a buzz, but it may be from my other meds. Now i will explain what my doctor perscribed me.
Iv tried so many medications, even when i was clean, from SSRI's to TCI's, now im actually slowely researching natural supplements and noortropics. Anyway, my doctor gave me an add test because he thought from what i told him i may have add and he told me alot of drug addicts have some form of add. I must have "failed the test" and i was persrcibed adderall. After starting adderall, i noticed a big difference in motivation, focus, and just basically doing things that normally i would have to use to do.
Im currently perscribed 20mg 2x daily. Yes i know adderall can be addictive, but i dont seem to get high from it, just i feel more mentally sociable, i can do research on my computer for hours where in the past 1 hr tops. It does give me a bit of a mood lift. I also suffer from depression and anxiety so, im taking Klonopin which eliminated the anxiety caused by adderall. This combo for me works very good. I stopped taking ssri's and im taking a few natural substances such as 5htp, Same, Fish oils, Rhodia rosia, and a few others. There are so many herbs, botanicals, adaptogens, supplements and amino acids that can be utilized and get the brain back into gear. My goal now is to slowely eliminate 1 med at a time, replacing it with a natural means. I imagine suboxone will be last, because it does help alot and im afraid if i taper off it, ill get cravings and relapse.I will post more on Buprenorphine, other drugs and natural drugs. I have alot of information that may be usefull to some.
Oh by the way, i know that some people with think that because im taking adderall and klonopin im still "using and trying to get high." Well, just to say, i take them as perscribed, i get no where near the high like opiates, just fell more well being at times. If i even took too much adderall, id go into a panic attack, and if i took to much klonopin, id feel like a rubber band. So, the dosees im taking are perfect so far and all meds work synergistically it seems with one another.
geno
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