Posted by rayww on November 15, 2008, at 12:52:29
In reply to Re: Priest says no to communion for Obama voters » rayww, posted by seldomseen on November 15, 2008, at 6:33:26
Thank-you for your comments.
> Out of sync. Surely he can make his point some other way. Like, put it on the ballot.
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> ******Personally, I think what the Catholic church decides to do (Or not do) is ultimately up to them and their members. I disagree with a solely religion-based political agenda, but surely if this issue ends up on a ballot then religion can freely support it.******
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> By allowing abortion all we're saying is we don't value life. Those little ideas can grow into larger problems.
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> *****I do not agree with this statement. I think we will never fully know when life begins, it all depends on which authority (or lack of one) a person chooses to accept. If anything, I think allowing abortion says we can't appreciate the potential of life.*******There is one point at which all have to agree, once a breath is taken he or she is alive, and to put him or her into a death trap is murder.
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> Soon they will be aborting (killing) the sick and infirm, those with disabilities, those who can't or won't work, and those with any number of disorders.
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> ****Abortion has been legal for close to 40 years, before that abortions were performed for centuries. I really doubt that sanctioning abortion will lead to killing the infirmed. We may not all agree on when life begins, but we are quite clear on what life is (though perhaps not as clear on when life ends).*******
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> If our economy crashes and we can't afford the social programs of the present what else will they be left with?
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> ****I think we will not result to murder. Perhaps informed apathy and negligence, but one could make the argument that we are already, there, but murder? No.*****
>I think this all depends on how slippery the slope is.
> A government with too much power can make too many decisions. All I'm saying is we're heading for trouble.
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> ******I would definately agree with this statement. That's why I truly think the gov't should stay out of one of the most fundamental decisions of being human - whether or not to reproduce.*****It is hard because of all the "Zaxs" out there. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sneetches_and_Other_Stories If I say that Marriage between a man and a woman is ordained of God, is that offensive to you? I didn't say that marriage should only mean, or deny freedom to anyone else, all I said was that marriage between a man and a woman is ordained of God. We will be held accountable for how we treat the family. This isn't necessarily termed religion, or political either. Government has no place here. It is individual freedom of choice. It has been read at the United Nations, at something to do with world policies on the family. The actual proclamation is found at the bottom. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proclamation_on_the_Family
I think the reason the Mormon church is so involved is because they alone realize the seriousness of the situation in a way that no other people on the face of the earth do. (Yikes, did I say that???)
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